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To: silicon warrior who wrote (799)4/18/2000 7:09:00 PM
From: Bernard Levy  Respond to of 1658
 
Hi SW:

Soon you will be telling us that the WSJ was in
on the conspiracy against TERN:

Message 12415290

We now have at least 18 months worth of posts on SI
where Mark Laubach, Dave Horne, Pat Mudge, Geof
Hollingworth and I have dissected claims made by TERN
and found them wanting. In particular, I would like
to direct you to the first 40 posts on this thread.
18 months ago, Pluvia, Weiss, etc... had not heard of
TERN, but the problems that are now discussed openly
already existed. So, TERN has nobody to blame for
its troubles but its management.

Best regards,

Bernard Levy



To: silicon warrior who wrote (799)4/19/2000 2:23:00 AM
From: GOPbabe  Respond to of 1658
 
Funny you should mention about Milberg SW. I get about 300 wires a day and I am always finding PR from Milberg like the one I am posting below. Looks like they are not as busy usual.

Regards,

Merylee

Milberg Weiss Announces Securities Class Periods

SAN DIEGO--(BUSINESS WIRE)--April 18, 2000--Milberg Weiss
(http://www.milberg.com) gives notice to purchasers of the following
securities for the following periods:

CORPORATION PERIOD

AVT Corp. (NASDAQ:AVTC) 01/20/00 -- 03/17/00
To sign up on-line: milberg.com

Aurora Foods, Inc. (NYSE:AOR) 10/28/98 -- 02/17/00
To sign up on-line: milberg.com

Finova Group, Inc. (NYSE:FVN) 07/15/99 -- 03/26/00
To sign up on-line: milberg.com

Fruit of the Loom, Inc. (NYSE:FTL) 09/28/98 -- 11/04/99
To sign up on-line: milberg.com

Pacific Gateway Exchange, Inc. (NASDAQ:PGEX) 05/13/99 -- 03/31/00
To sign up on-line: milberg.com

Terayon Communications Systems Inc. (NASDAQ:TERN) 02/02/00 -- 04/11/00
To sign up on-line: milberg.com

Upgrade International, Inc. (OTCBB:UPGD.OB) 11/29/99 -- 02/24/00
To sign up on-line: milberg.com

VantageMed Corp. (NASDAQ:VMDC) Pursuant to 02/15/00 IPO
To sign up on-line: milberg.com

Visx, Inc. (NASDAQ:VISX) 03/01/99 -- 02/22/00
To sign up on-line: milberg.com

You should be aware that class action complaints involving the
securities of the above companies were filed on behalf of investors by
the law firm of Milberg Weiss Bershad Hynes & Lerach LLP ("Milberg
Weiss"), often in cooperation with other major experienced securities
firms.

If you wish to discuss these cases or have any questions
concerning these cases or your rights or interests, please contact:
William S. Lerach or Darren J. Robbins of Milberg Weiss/California at
800/449-4900, via e-mail at wsl@mwbhl.com.

Milberg Weiss is a 120 lawyer firm that has been actively engaged
in commercial litigation, emphasizing securities and antitrust class
actions, for more than 30 years. The firm has offices in New York, San
Diego, San Francisco, Los Angeles and Boca Raton and is active in
major litigation pending in federal and state courts throughout the
United States. The firm's reputation for excellence has been
recognized on repeated occasions by courts which have appointed the
firm to major positions in complex multi-district or consolidated
litigations. Milberg Weiss has taken a lead role in numerous important
actions on behalf of defrauded investors, and has been responsible for
a number of outstanding recoveries which, in the aggregate, total
approximately $2 billion.

CONTACT:

Milberg Weiss Bershad Hynes & Lerach

William Lerach, 800/449-4900

wsl@mwbhl.com

TICKERS: NASDAQ:AVTC NYSE:AOR NYSE:FVN NYSE:FTL NASDAQ:PGEX

NASDAQ:TERN OTCBB:UPGD.OB NASDAQ:VMDC NASDAQ:VISX



To: silicon warrior who wrote (799)4/19/2000 2:56:00 AM
From: lml  Respond to of 1658
 
Silicon-W:

Thanks for the reply.

Under the proposed SEC rules, there is no issue--if you trade while you have material non public info, you are SOL.

I agree.

Presently, you may argue--and some jurisdictions would agree--that a plaintiff must show that you actually traded on the info. For example, if you have a quarterly trading window and you traded in it consistent with prior activity, it would be difficult to prove that you used the information. Thus, no violation.

This is interesting, and plausible, but would be very difficult for a plaintiff to prove. I pity the plaintiff is such jxs. The regular pattern of selling, to some extent, provides a safe harbor for insiders to sell their shares irrespective of possession of non-public information. However, I would look to not only to timing, but also the magnitude of such sales relative to well-established patterns of selling by the insiders whose sales are the subject of the lawsuit. Accordingly, I don't believe such an analysis will be helpful to the TERN defendants as no such pattern exists. In fact, the record indicates an increased level of selling in and around the period in question.

If there was no big deal with Cablelabs, as appears to be the case to me, then the info may have been non public but was not material.

I'm surprised by your conclusion on this issue as I believe it is misplaced. What Cablelabs thinks on this issue, while arguably relevant, is by no means conclusive or probative to the issue of materiality. I would think the issue of materiality goes to what an investor would deem material, not what CableLabs views material.

As I see it, we're talking about apples & oranges, counselor. Investors are interested in the prospects of S-CDMA technology achieving DOCSIS certification within a given time frame as it pertains to the ability of TERN to grow revenues going forward. Investors view DOCSIS certification as important. I don't think you would argue with this.

CableLabs holds a completely different perspective on materiality. Their view might be like this: "Yeah, we'll look at S-CDMA, and if it meets our parameters in terms of cost and workability within a certain time frame, we incorporate into the next certification; if not, we'll continue to look at it for inclusion into the next certification, keeping the door open, but there are no guarantees." CableLabs would like to incorporate S-CDMA into a certification at some point in the future, but it is not critical to the DOCSIS certification process.

Now wouldn't you think the standard of materiality might be different for an investor than it would be for CableLabs?



To: silicon warrior who wrote (799)4/19/2000 10:06:00 AM
From: CRay33  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1658
 
Can anyone confirm if this guy is really Pluvia:

NEWS: THE MISSING LINK FOUND between Steve Keyser aka Pluvia and Steve Sayre aka Silver Screen!!!!!

WE'VE GOT HIM!!!! Kerness's number listed on the board was noticed by GB. He called the number and asked for Steve Keyser. First Kerness said he was not there, then GB asked if he could speak to him and that they had a rugby game, Kerness told GB to try later. The guy was sounding very nervous! GB called Kerness back again, and Kerness said he had his (GBs) number from caller I.D. and that he would give it to Keyser when he speaks to him. Then he "started ------- in his pants" when he realized that the call was not from Nevada. GB told him his name was Guilliam Barre!! Pluvia is going down!!!!!