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To: Neocon who wrote (78508)4/19/2000 3:32:00 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 108807
 
I disagree- our instinct toward civilization is what has made us so super successful. We could never support the population numbers we have now were it not for our "civilized" methods of agriculture, and our technology, an outgrowth of our civilization. Try to imagine what the most primitive society can support. How many individuals? Not many.

Morality, imo, is entirely practical. It would be highly inefficient not to have something like morality.



To: Neocon who wrote (78508)4/20/2000
From: Dayuhan  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
morality, although it does have some practical elements, is not primarily about personal or species survival, but primarily about the creation of a "human world", through the exercise of our faculties and development of our sensibilities.

In other words, that we have developed moral codes that we believe will assist us in developing our world in the way we want it to develop. This is what I've been saying all along, and I see no difference between this and the argument that X and I have been making. We want to create this "human world" to allow ourselves and our descendants to survive and prosper, do we not? And do we not create codes that we believe will lead to this end? And are we not most successful in progressing toward this goal when we rely on "our faculties and development of our sensibilities", rather than on the barren forms of a dying mysticism?

I am glad we agree so thoroughly.