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To: PROLIFE who wrote (17385)4/24/2000 11:54:00 AM
From: Jacques Chitte  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
>fact----- many deaths today and baby parts for sale!!!<

My goodness - WHERE???
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To: PROLIFE who wrote (17385)4/24/2000 3:08:00 PM
From: E  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Arguing with you is exactly like arguing with a child! You really, literally, don't understand anything you read. Literally.

My PM friends are right about you, and your PM friends are right about me-- you are offering yourself as an exhibit called Lies and Distortions Promulgated By The Extremist Anti-abortion Movement, and I am taking advantage of your offer, and it does, indeed, make me feel good to have had this opportunity. (I do not include all anti-abortionists as part of your movement. All do not promulgate lies. I am referring to the movement that disseminates the "printed material" you believe proves lies.) If a cause is good and just, it does not have to be argued with lies and distortions. I have chosen one primary one of yours to expose, because it was a scientific misstatement easy to prove untrue, and one you stated had been disseminated "for years," and therefore a perfect emblem. It is certainly not the only disinformation you have offered.

Give you the names of the women I have known who have had ugly illegal abortions? Are you mad, man? And do you really doubt this? You have acknowledged that it has happened!

You say that the prochoice movement lied about the numbers. I wouldn't be a bit surprised. There are those on both side of the issue who are ideologues, and (virtually by definition) disingenuous. I believe it is, to all intents and purposes, a lie (one rationalized by ideology in much the same way that you rationalize lying to "SAVE lies"), that 7 month fetuses aren't babies. They are. If the part of the prochoice movement that makes that obviously untrue claim also cooked the figures (hey, it would be to "SAVE women!"-- ideologues are all alike) it wouldn't surprise me a bit.

<<< I see the liberal tap dance already. >>>

What are you referring to? The escalation of my offer to trillions? Are you saying that I won't live up to the offer I made? Please paste the offer here that you think I won't live up to. DO NOT RECALL IT FROM MEMORY. Your memory is either poor or dishonest. Paste the post it is in, bolding or italicizing the offer. I will honor it. BTW, I know you will not do this. You will "paraphrase," so you can lie. That is my Prediction Number One. If you do otherwise, and I fail to live up to my offer, I will have to apologize profusely. If you "paraphrase" as I predict, your moral corruption will be further exposed.

<<<fact----- many deaths today and baby parts for sale!!!>>>

Are you implying that many baby parts are for sale? I would really appreciate an answer on this, and a source. What "baby parts"? How many? Which parts? Who buys and who sells? Are the organs of babies being sold, PROLIFE? That "fact" (!) gives this impression. I implore you to answer each of these questions. They are important. You will not, however. That is my Prediction Number Two.

<<<all the lies told by the money grubbers to keep the killing legal>>>

What lies are told? What money grubbers? Please substantiate this "fact" (!) from some reputable journal or web source. You will not do this. That is my Prediction Number Three.

P.S. I am not a liberal. Have you not noticed that my views are sharply at variance with those of liberals? Not only on abortion, but on gun control and many other issues that I have discussed here. I guess you forgot.

I hope you will reply to the questions I have asked you in this post about the claims of "fact" you have made. These are important issues, not to be treated casually. Please do answer them, PROLIFE. I also hope you will paste the post with the offer you believe I will not live up to, if I understood that correctly, bolding the offer itself.

Prediction Number Four is that Predictions Numbers One, Two, and Three are all accurate.