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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Gopher Broke who wrote (107630)4/24/2000 5:23:00 PM
From: Tenchusatsu  Respond to of 1574265
 
Gopher, <I am not sure that this assumption is valid [Athlon high-speed bin split]. I have not seen estimates as to what percentage of Athlons were downbinned last Q but it could have been 100% for all I know.>

I hadn't thought of that. You could be right. I was basing my statement on Sanders saying that AMD shipped tens of thousands of high-speed Athlons (900 MHz and above, I think) in Q1. Perhaps AMD could have shipped more had the market demanded; I don't know. I was just basing my original statement on what AMD (and Intel) actually shipped, not what they could have shipped.

<Certainly it seems like successful overclocking of a slow Athlon is a given, and sometimes they can be clocked up by outrageous amounts.>

I don't like to base probable binsplits on overclocking success alone. In general, overclocking is an art, not a science, and the results greatly differ independent of the actual speed bins experienced at the fab.

On a tangent, I remember when there was a small controversy brewing over Intel underclocking its CPUs in order to protect the margins of their higher-speed processors. Some even brought up a past lawsuit regarding two products (lens-cleaning solution, I believe). Even though both products were identical, one of those products was labeled "premium brand" and priced higher. The judge ruled against the maker of the two products.

Anyway, this lawsuit was to be used as a basis for a possible lawsuit against Intel's underclocking practice. I wonder why such a controversy isn't brewing over AMD's alleged underclocking.

Tenchusatsu