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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (102904)	4/25/2000 1:22:00 PM
From: Yaacov	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

I'm rather worried about Intel's upcoming Foster processor overshadowing Merced/Itanium."" Tecno Pls. explain what is Foster proccssor?

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (102904)	4/26/2000 12:46:00 AM
From: Joe NYC	Respond to of 186894

Tenchusatsu, I'm rather worried about Intel's upcoming Foster processor overshadowing Merced/Itanium. Why are you worried about it? I thought the plan was for Foster to continue where Xeon left left off - to be the mass market server, and for Merced to try to gain a foothold in markets where Intel has not been represented. Joe

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (102904)	4/27/2000 9:36:00 PM
From: Rob Young	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Tench, "I'm rather worried about Intel's upcoming Foster processor overshadowing Merced/Itanium." I appreciate your honesty... A contiuing theme of mine is just what do you do with an Itanium? Maybe not much as the timelines drug out to the point that its niche will be gone by the time it ships. It's much higher floating point is actually a strong possiblity Willamette will have similarly high fp (see recent discussions in comp.arch regarding Willamette performance). Since X86 will run X86 much faster, it would take a compelling advantage to switch to Itanium. One hope is databases. Make that Very Large Memory databases and the trade-rag writers are doing their share to raise awareness of that. However, HP's SuperDome (follow-on to V2500 series), Sun's Sarengetti (100 processor follow-on to the very successful UE10000), IBMs follow-on to its VERY successful S80 (over 700 units shipped since Sept. 1999) and Compaq's Wildfire (smokes the S80, ships in May) will all be shipping in or around year-end (Sun's box slips to next year). So high-end database for Itanium means perhaps Windows 2000 at 32 processors, maybe a real narrow market for next year, but who knows. More importantly, the sweet spot (as you are probably alluding to) is the 4 and 8 processor box and Foster will no doubt outperform Itanium in database maneuveurs as it should be twice as fast clock for clock. Interesting year shaping up. Itanium... all dressed up and really no place to go. Rob