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Politics : About that Cuban boy, Elian -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: The Barracuda™ who wrote (2926)4/26/2000 3:42:00 PM
From: Rock_nj  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 9127
 
Huh? Fathers make decisions for their sons every day, especially when they're that young. A certain first lady stood up for childrens rights years ago and was hounded by the right wing family values crowd. Now these same people assert that Elian has rights that circumvent parental control? I don't get it? Are they in favor of childrens rights over their parents or not?



To: The Barracuda™ who wrote (2926)4/26/2000 4:18:00 PM
From: larscot  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 9127
 
Elian doesn't know what "rights" are. The only thing he knows is that he gets hungry and wants to be fed, hurt and needs a band-aid, or just wants to play. Typical 6 year old needs. His rights are what his parents (now father) will decide for him (god hoping U.S. meddling is done), until he's old enough to decide for himself.

When he gets to be a teenager, then he can escape here if he wants, and develop the good ol' American 'tude teens have and start spouting off about "rights"... (all you parents out there know what I mean).

Then you'll really want him to shut up.

Given the profiles we have seen of the relatives, If I were the kid, I'd take growing up with a stable home life and poor then to be locked up (emotionally speaking) with a drunk Lazaro and hysterical Marisleysis. Think that's the basis for a stable home life?

I'd be running for the hills. The mind trip linked to that experience would be more devastating than any other scenario one could (realistically) conjure.

If he stayed, he could end up in prison, dead, or in front of a keyboard typing code for a living (g)



To: The Barracuda™ who wrote (2926)4/26/2000 4:32:00 PM
From: jhild  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 9127
 
Neither you nor castro or his father should violate Elian's rights.

You and some of your cohorts really have hard ons over the idea of somehow "getting" Castro, Clinton and Reno.

You none of you get the fact that PARENTS rule a child. Since parents can be held liable for actions of negligence by their children, they have absolute dominion to control their upbringing. As with anything there are limits and society will not tolerate physical or sexual abuse. But freedom of choice? No way. That right belongs to the parent.

You would foment an undermining of such a fundamental right and risk in the process a cascade of future generations of self-indulgent, spoiled, selfish, bratty individuals that operated only on the consideration of what they and they alone ever got out of things.

I can only suppose that those of you who do not have children are free to think that this is a good thing. Likely because these future generations would be in tune with your own thinking.

Children have rights all right, but their parents are the guardians of those rights. Absent any evidence, and I mean any evidence in Elian's case, of any kind of abuse, Elian must remain with his Father. This isn't a Democracy/Communism issue. There is a far more established precedent for parental rights founded in common sense.

Screw with that and you are screwing with nature.