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To: cheryl williamson who wrote (31366)4/27/2000 6:49:00 PM
From: Robert  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 64865
 
Cheryl, it's not exactly clear who commoditises whom.

The argument that EMC is making is that storage is
needed to archive vast amounts of raw data, of which
a small amount is useful knowledge computed and
distributed by servers. (Eg searching a database for
cross references between client and goods ordered).

This argument also assumes that computing time is
relatively insensitive to data size as the latter
increases, so that storage requirements rise
relative to computing requirements. This depends
to a great deal on the algorithms used. Straight
searching is O(log n) which is sublinear in data
size, but pattern matching is O(n) for the best
algorithm so one needs at least as much CPU
cycles proprotional to disk space not to slow down
relatively. Worst, multiple simultaneous matches
scales as O(n^(k-1)) so CPU cycles quickly outpace
data size.

If anything I believe that storage will be commoditised
relative to CPU cycles than the other way around. Even
if EMC has an open API so that any server can use it,
storage has to coexist with other network services like
backups, routers, mail etc. Either storage has to
be smart to coordinate resources, the CPU coordinates
resources, or the resources are smart to coordinate
themselves. Of those three options, Sun's JIRO technology
architects the last two choices and leaves EMC with
the uneviable option of having storage run the
network. With odds of 2 to 1 in Sun's favour it seems
to have the upper hand.



To: cheryl williamson who wrote (31366)4/28/2000 5:58:00 AM
From: JDN  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 64865
 
Dear Cheryl: Well, its easy to make statements, and those statements may actually be correct in and of themselves but they may not MEAN what they appear to mean. That is why I wanted experienced people to address EMC's press release and advise us. For instance, what does it mean to say of total DP costs storage will be 80% vs 20% Servers? Is this in general, or does it relate purely to intensive storage operations requiring a lot of manipulations to the stored data? Does storage require a lot of ongoing personnel costs as compared to server functions? What is the overall cost of a DP operation going to be, is it rising dramatically? What position in this equation is the SUNW storage going to have? I just give Scott Mc. and crew a lot more sense than to think that they may be obsolete in 3-5 years and doing nothing to address it. JDN