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To: Amy J who wrote (103048)	4/28/2000 11:41:00 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

RE:"OT Hi Tenchusatsu, RE: "privacy concerns were lunatics." If a desire for privacy isn't a valid need, then what's your full name? : ) " Pretty well shot down Tenchs' argument on that one. Jim

To: Amy J who wrote (103048)	4/29/2000 3:26:00 AM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Amy, <If a desire for privacy isn't a valid need, then what's your full name?> I've got a better idea. I'm typing this on my Pentium III. Want to know what my processor's serial number is? If the "privacy lunatics" are right, you should have no trouble using that serial number to access my real name, credit card info, home address, etc. Tenchusatsu

To: Amy J who wrote (103048)	4/29/2000 11:43:00 PM
From: deibutfeif	Respond to of 186894

Amy J and Tench, re: privacy concerns Couple of points: 1) Strong anonymity can be good (e.g. on SI, if desired) 2) But strong identity can also be good, like when you want to establish/maintain an online business relationship So the issue is: how to provide the end user with the right feature - non-spoofable but under the user's control? Processor Serial Number was NOT it: 1) it was touted as a security feature/benefit when it in fact wasn't - could be spoofed, so it couldn't be an strong identity 2) it couldn't be positively turned off by the user, so bad people might be able to use it without the user's knowledge ~dbf