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Politics : About that Cuban boy, Elian -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Les H who wrote (3505)	4/29/2000 9:32:00 AM
From: jimpit	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 9127

Rarely have I ever agreed with Dershowitz on ANYTHING. But, lately he and I are on a roll... LOL! Elian surely needs HIS OWN representation. He is NOT property belonging to anyone, to do with as they please. Not (necessarily) even his father. Jim _____________________________________________________ NewsMax.com newsmax.com For the story behind the story... Saturday April 29, 2000; 6:44 AM EDT Dershowitz: Elian Needs His Own Lawyer (Note: Emphasis added) "Up until now, this case has not been about Elian's rights. It's has been about Elian's father's rights and about the claimed rights of Elian's Miami relatives. No one has made a determination as to whether Elian's best interests would be served by his return to Cuba with his father or by remaining in the United States." So wrote Harvard Professor Alan Dershowitz in a Los Angeles Times op-ed piece that appeared less than 24 hours before President Clinton ordered Attorney General Janet Reno to seize Elian Gonzalez by force. Though the Harvard Law man is usually in the Clinton administration's corner, he thought the government was trampling on the rights of the six-year-old Cuban refugee even before the administration launched its outrageous pre-dawn assault on his Miami home. Dershowitz argued that, though many of the facts in Elian's case are in dispute, the boy has thus far been denied the kind of search for the truth that due process was meant to ensure. "We still have not had a single word of testimony under oath, a single subpoena issued or a single witness cross examined," noted the professor. Now, though Elian remains on American soil and ostensibly enjoys the protection of the U.S. system of justice, his only legal spokesman is Gregory Craig, onetime lawyer to Bill Clinton, the man who authorized his gunpoint abduction. "The best assurance that the courts will apply the law fairly is for the child -- who, after all, has the greatest stake in the outcome -- to have his own advocate," concluded Deshowitz. On Thursday the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals refused to appoint an independent lawyer who could speak for the boy, as lawyers for his Miami family had requested. Dershowitz's argument makes that decision even more difficult to understand. All Rights Reserved ¸ NewsMax.com _________________________________________________________ newsmax.com

To: Les H who wrote (3505)	4/29/2000 12:39:00 PM
From: chalu2	Respond to of 9127

I think you're misinformed. While Cuba is not perhaps my ideal of where to live, the people there do not work as chained slaves, as you would have it. Does Juan Miguel, his wife Nersy and the grandmothers who came here look like they just stepped out of life on a chain gang? I think you need to bone up on the history of slavery to understand what it is to actually be a "slave." (there are still slaves in many parts of the world--a fair number work in Asia or Madagascar making apparel for U.S. importers). People leave Cuba because it is poor, a condition caused in part by the U.S. embargo, which obviously punishes the average Cuban citizen more than Castro. People will suffer and perhaps die trying to leave any poor country--many have died trying to leave Mexico for the U.S., slain by banditos as they try to make the desert crossing into the San Diego area. Juan Miguel, by all accounts, likes Cuba. I know you can't accept this, but there are Cuban residents who don't want to come here. He is Elian's father, and it is up to him where Elian should live. It is not our role to withhold Cuban children from their parents any more than we should do this for stray children who might arrive here from China, North Korea, Arab countries ruled by kings, or Asia countries that abound in apparel-factory indentured servants. If the parent says "let's return to Thailand", for example, that should be the end of the story.