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To: greenspirit who wrote (17799)	4/29/2000 3:53:00 PM
From: haqihana	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Michael, Is it naivity, or is it complacency? There has been an attitude growing in this country that "it ain't none of my business!" This attitude allows young women to be beaten, and raped in places like NYC, while a crowd looks on and, no one lifts a finger to help. They see a murdered body in the streets, and merely shrug their shoulders. As long as the situation doesn't interfere with the filling of their purses, or inconveniences their comfort, they just don't give a flip. America is not a two-bit country, but at the present time, we have two-bit leadership. Many citizens are like sheep being led to the slaughter by the "Judas" goat, but they will not look that far into the future. And it's not really that far. Communism has not been, economically, successful in any country that has ever tried it. This fact can easily be seen in accurate historical documents but, most do not look, or care. As I heard it, Communism and Socialism, were supposed to be "all for one, one for all." Then, how come it takes a dictator, and overpowering secret police force, to run any nation espousing these two political options? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out but, may be better understood by a 6 year old child than any PHD. From what Communist country have citizens NOT tried to flee? How many people died trying to go over the Berlin wall? How many people have died in the Gulf of Mexico trying to escape Castro? How many South Vietnamese died fleeing the Ho Chi Min murderers? I could go on, and on, but what's the use. Not enough people listen. Members of the Clinton/Gore administration broke the law! What else is new? Nobody seems to care. Sad but true. ~;=;o --haqi

To: greenspirit who wrote (17799)	4/29/2000 7:05:00 PM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

What about these guys? cnn.com Are they fleeing a prison hell, or just a hell? What's the difference, really? Note that CNN describes the 300 Haitians as "migrants" and the one Cuban as a "refugee". Child labor is common everywhere in the developing world, and I could tell you stories of cruelty and inhumanity from supposedly "free" developing countries that would equal anything you hear out of Cuba. It is quite impossible to know if any given Cuban is fleeing from communism or simply from third-world living conditions. in another week, month or year, another young mother will be left with making the tortured decision of risking her life, and the life of her children by getting in a raft and paddling 90 miles to FREEDOM Everyone who supports the way this has been handled is culpable for their deaths, as well as the hundreds of deaths Castro is sure to cause shooting people as they try and escape tyranny. Seems to me that one of the best arguments for not accepting Cubans who arrive by sea is that leniency only encourages others to risk their lives and the lives of their children.

To: greenspirit who wrote (17799)	4/30/2000 2:01:00 PM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 769667

Communism and child labor is terrible. There are hundreds of millions of kids growing up in Communist China, North Korea, and Vietnam. Millions more work as child laborers in India, Pakistan, Indonesia. And we can't solve these problems by bringing them all to America. Question: Elian's half-brother is in this country right now. Do you think we should prevent him from being taken back to Cuba as well? Don't Lazaro and Marisleysis have as much claim on him as they do on Elian? Seems likely to me Elian will have less freedom and sparser economic prospects in Cuba. But, I think, as he's been made a national symbol and the world press is interested in him, he won't be persecuted or treated cruelly.