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To: chalu2 who wrote (17841)4/30/2000 2:43:00 PM
From: gao seng  Respond to of 769667
 
Technically you are correct. But...

The argument of those who think the seizure was not legal
turns on knotty legal issues, but boils down to this: The
search warrant was improperly issued because it is meant for
use only when there is suspicion of a criminal violation, or
violation of a direct court order -- neither was the case in
Elian's situation. And without that warrant, federal agents
had no right to enter the home of a third party, namely Lazaro
Gonzalez, to grab Elian.

The relatives' lawyers think they can use their contention of
an improper search in a second effort to persuade federal
appellate judges that Elian needs an independent guardian to
represent his interests. A three-judge panel of the 11th
Circuit Court of Appeals, which is considering their request
for a political asylum hearing for Elian, on Thursday rejected
the relatives' first request for a guardian.

At the very least, the question has already become a political
issue, and would become a major focus of promised
congressional hearings if they take place.

``One can't turn back the clock,'' said Laurence H. Tribe,
professor of constitutional law at Harvard. ``But the
relevance of arguing about this and taking seriously the
constitutional issues it poses is the threat of its happening
again in the future.''

herald.com



To: chalu2 who wrote (17841)4/30/2000 3:56:00 PM
From: greenspirit  Respond to of 769667
 
chulu2, I fear for our country when I see so many intelligent people willing to allow a government agency unilateral power to break into a law abiding citizens home, and point weapons in their face without so much as a court order.

I am also concerned to see these same people unwilling to look at the complexities of this case. And I can see that no matter what I write, people have closed their mind to the actual legal issues involved.

Sometime in the future, either through a suit or other process. I am confident a court will judge these actions by the justice department and the INS to be illegal. Most people will probably forget about Elian and the breakin by then. However, I will remember, and remind the people on this thread when it happens. (if this thread still exists)

Michael