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To: Scot who wrote (108829)5/1/2000 11:51:00 AM
From: Scot  Respond to of 1576081
 
Here's something I saw on AMDzone that looks interesting:

We just got the following e-mail from AMD's public relations department. Something must be up. Stay tuned.

Monday, May 1 at 4 p.m. ET, The W Hotel on Lexington in NYC

12 HIGH TECH COMPANIES GATHER IN NEW YORK
TO ANNOUNCE THE FORMATION OF A
NEW INDEPENDENT COMPANY

WHAT: Press Conference

WHO: CEOs and senior executives from 12 of the biggest names in
technology.

WHEN: Monday, May 1, 2000 ---- 4 p.m. ET

WHERE: The W Hotel (New York City)
541 Lexington Avenue, between 48th and 49th Streets
The Forest 1 Room (2nd floor), 212-755-1200



To: Scot who wrote (108829)5/1/2000 12:43:00 PM
From: Steve Porter  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576081
 
Scot:

re: A Microsoft study from November 1997 reveals that the company could have charged $49 for an upgrade to Windows 98 ? there is no reason to believe that the $49 price would have been unprofitable ? but the study identifies $89 as the revenue-maximizing price. Microsoft thus opted for the higher price.

Well, a personal study shows Intel could have been profitable selling the PIII at an asp of $100. However, Intel's studies show that $180asp maximixes their revenue. How is pricing your product at the maximum point a bad thing.

You can't yell at these companies, WE (shareholders) DEMAND they screw the consumer, and don't for a minute think we don't. If AMD made $.01 a CPU they would still be profitable, but we demand they make as much per CPU as possible.

Regards,

Steve



To: Scot who wrote (108829)5/1/2000 1:45:00 PM
From: Joe NYC  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1576081
 
Scot,

A Microsoft study from November 1997 reveals that the company could have charged $49 for an upgrade to Windows 98 ? there is no reason to believe that the $49 price would have been unprofitable ? but the study identifies $89 as the revenue-maximizing price. Microsoft thus opted for the higher price.

You (or actually judge Jackson) make it sound like MSFT is the first company in the world that tried to maximize revenue (more accurately profit) in deciding how to price a product. Maximizing profit is something normal, all companies do this.

Joe



To: Scot who wrote (108829)5/1/2000 4:14:00 PM
From: Jim McMannis  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576081
 
Scot,
RE:'I don't disagree with you about the tobacco cases. Those were money grabs by trial lawyers; the states willingly went along because of the $$. Nobody likes cigarette companies and no one is crying any tears for them or the prospect that people may stop smoking because of higher taxes (a somewhat dubious principle behind the settlement).

But tell me what the states receive out of MSFT breakup? And two, where are the trial lawyers? I don't think this situation is anyway or how comparable...unless the suggestion is that because lawyers and the government are involved...that we should be read between the lines.
"

The states will want money for damages. The states will employ litagation (trial) attorneys who will want do it for a percentage. They are licking their chops now. This is what happened with the tobacco companies.
The state of FL didn't willingly give the attorneys what the wanted but the attorneys had made a deal for what percentage they got going in. When the settlement came down the attorneys were supposed to get a $billion...yes one billion dollars. 10 Lawyers. Turns out the state didn't make a very good deal and tried to re-nig. They had to sue the state. Settled for less but still came out smellin' like a rose. The gist was that the state was stupid to even give the Lawyers a percentage, should have been a flat fee.
But we have Lawyers regulating Lawyers.
You think this is bad...if this goes through...dreams of sugar plums like AOL, CSCO, SUNW and Intel will be in their minds while they sleep. The key to all this is "what can we get on someone with BIG pockets"...this is the way Lawyers think.

Jim



To: Scot who wrote (108829)5/1/2000 4:17:00 PM
From: Jim McMannis  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1576081
 
RE:"I know I bought that upgrade..but only because I needed the USB support which was not available in '95. That's the kind of real-world example which (to me, at least) emphasizes the problems with monopoloy power (and pricing)."

Isn't there a free USB patch for '95 on MS's website?

Jim