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To: J Fieb who wrote (26690)	5/2/2000 8:06:00 PM
From: w2j2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 29386

J, Thanks for the article. Once again, it appears Cisco intends to take over the SAN space using SCSI over TCP and 10G ethernet. Bechtolsheim has been predicting this for years, but it always seems to be "in the future". The Ancor and Brocade FC people say it cannot be done. We have a lot of money riding on this.......stay tuned! wj

To: J Fieb who wrote (26690)	5/2/2000 10:49:00 PM
From: George Dawson	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 29386

My take on this is that it is potential trouble for FC SAN manufacturers. The article is largely rhetorical, especially since the SCSI over IP SANs that they are referring to are vaporware as far as I can tell. On the other hand, we all witnessed how GE was made the LAN standard. Have to agree with our oft quoted analyst on this one, all of the FC SAN manufacturers including Brocade need to mount a unified response to this. George D. PS: Fell free to e-mail me any details of a working 10 Gbps GE SAN that is running SCSI over IP if you have one. I would also be very interested in what you are using to cluster disks on the storage side of your 10 gig adapter. Don't worry - I won't tell anybody.

To: J Fieb who wrote (26690)	5/22/2000 8:20:00 AM
From: J Fieb	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 29386

Nishan huh. We've seen that name before..... I looked a couple weeks ago and didn't find anything now I get some hits..... And a Cisco executive joined the board of Nishan, a SAN start-up in Santa Clara. They are a member of SNIA snia.org Cisco has someone on the board and so does AMCC..... amcc.com A link nishansystems.com Nishan Systems to Revolutionize Storage Area Networking Computer Industry Giants Join Leading Venture Capitalists to Back Start-Up's Storage over IP (SoIP©) Plans San Jose, Calif.-May 22, 2000- Nishan Systems today announced that it will revolutionize the Storage Area Networking (SAN) market, by creating a complete end-to-end solution based on the proven networking standards IP and Gigabit Ethernet. Nishan and its partners will introduce Storage over IP? (SoIP), which combines the best features of today's first-generation SANs?high availability and performance?with the best features of IP networks?product compatibility, established standards, and scalability. Nishan also announced that it has signed investment agreements with a number of the world's leading storage and computer companies. These investments bring Nishan's total funding from leading corporations and venture capital institutions to over $40 million. Prior rounds of financing came from premier technology venture capitalists, including Altos Ventures, ComVentures, Discovery Ventures, Raza Ventures, Sofinnova Ventures, and Weiss, Peck & Greer Venture Partners. SoIP will leverage the unprecedented improvements in the IP infrastructure itself and provide vendor interoperability, an unrealized goal that continues to plague current SAN offerings. In addition to serving the traditional enterprise and service provider customer segments, SoIP also will help develop an entirely new type of service?online storage. "Every once in a while, a company has an idea that changes an entire industry," said Aamer Latif, president and CEO of Nishan Systems. "SoIP is an idea that will completely transform the storage networking industry. By integrating storage with IP, Nishan and the other SoIP companies will allow enterprises and service providers to use their expertise in designing and managing IP networks to solve the exploding storage access problem. Until now, widespread SAN adoption has been curtailed by proprietary implementations. With the advent of SoIP, we and our partners will enable the broad deployment of SANs." While the SAN market is projected to reach $2.8 billion (Source: IDC for 2003), a recent Enterprise Management Associates report showed that nearly half of the IT managers surveyed were not planning to implement SANs, with many citing a lack of standards as a serious problem. SoIP leverages existing standards, including native IP and Gigabit Ethernet, to break down the barriers to widespread SAN deployment, and enable the SAN market to reach its full potential. In addition to investing in Nishan to create an end-to-end SoIP solution, the company's partners will provide extensive applications experience and features validation. The companies backing Nishan represent over $150B in revenues, and have customer relationships with virtually every major enterprise and service provider. World-Class Management and Technology Teams Nishan brings together world-class management and technical expertise from the data networking, storage networking, ASIC, and storage industries. Nishan's management and board members bring executive experience from the leading high-technology companies, including Cisco Systems, 3Com, Hewlett-Packard, Amati Communications, Toshiba, and AMD. About Nishan Systems Nishan Systems, based in San Jose, California, was founded in 1998 to develop and deliver next-generation Storage Area Networks that employ Storage over IP. Nishan and its partners are creating an end-to-end, SoIP-based SAN solution that improves application performance and accessibility, while it reduces the total cost of ownership for data storage networks. By enabling enterprises and service providers to use their existing IP infrastructure to carry storage data, Nishan is helping make the vision of a single network for data, voice, and storage a reality A job offering suggests they want to make switches... Responsibilities: Implement industry standard and advanced protocols in our switches.The development environment is C in a standard embedded OS. Software switching and routing will both be supported. Requirements: Experienced in IP network protocols. Able to develop and modify advanced IP routing protocols.minimum of five years of applicable networking industry experience and additional experience in the embedded systems area. How come they can't use the stuff off the shelves? Hmmmmm. Could it be that when they fix it for storage use it won't really be Ethernet?