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To: Sir Auric Goldfinger who wrote (7695)	5/3/2000 6:56:00 PM
From: StockDung	Respond to of 10354

"All I want from ziasun now is to protect an interest of those foreigners, who perhaps are not in a position to sell, they may be still waiting for the certs, etc." By: vklepa Reply To: 20006 by birdman! Wednesday, 3 May 2000 at 5:46 PM EDT Post # of 20015 birdman, sorry, I should have been lot's more civil. It is that it was boilng in me for a very long time, I kept silent for the sake of the old longs, now I don't really believe in the old time longs being still here (sorry again). That 700 pages filing was 700 pages from the day one and it was always used as an excuse for the delays. It is not AMEX now, Hamburg listing .... why not Frankfurt, not enough history in the Rathaus(?) or they don't like non-reporting otc companies. Well, so many red flags, that I am really glad that I've been out of here for long, and I'm telling you, getting out was not that easy, ask those guys who used to "stand by their letter boxes, waiting for their certs". All I want from ziasun now is to protect an interest of those foreigners, who perhaps are not in a position to sell, they may be still waiting for the certs, etc. I know that Ziasun at some stage disassociated themseleves from Amber, but the selling of reg s shares went on and it is a factor I would like Ziasun to take into consideration, whatever it takes. If there are any reg s shares still with the brokers, perhaps they should be bought back, just in case. I'm implying nothing as to the current state of the matters, except that I don't like what my naked eye sees. I am mainly referring to the past, which I had a misfortune to be a small part of. If I am to be labeled a basher, let it be known, that my particulars are well known to Ziasun, Amber as well as to Z8 defendants and any party could easily sue me, ..... which I advise against. I remain to be OIA's client (on a temporary voluntary suspension). Take care, and again - I was too hard on you. Sorry!

To: Sir Auric Goldfinger who wrote (7695)	5/4/2000 2:46:00 PM
From: StockDung	Respond to of 10354

Just a reminder. The original ZSUN thread was started by Tokyo Joe member alias SUNW Subject 25535 Judge won't throw out charges against Tokyo Joe WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A federal judge in Chicago refused on Thursday to throw out fraud charges against the creator of the Tokyo Joe investment Web site, handing an initial victory to securities regulators trying to clamp down on fraud on the Internet. The Securities and Exchange Commission accused Yun Soo Oh Park, also known as Tokyo Joe, and his company Tokyo Joe SA of taking $1.1 million in fees from members of the Web site in exchange for investment advice, daily stock picks and access to a private chat room where he allegedly promoted stocks without disclosing his interests. Park's lawyers had filed a motion to dismiss the charges by the securities regulators, arguing that their clients had expressed personal ideas and opinions over the Internet which did not constitute investment advice and that he owed no fiduciary duty to the subscribers. ``The court notes initially that defendants meet the basic definition of an 'investment adviser,''' said U.S. District Judge Charles Kocoras in his ruling. ``We're very pleased with the results; we were victorious on all counts'' in the denial of the motion to dismiss,'' said Tim Warren, associate regional director in the SEC's Chicago office. Park's lawyers were not immediately available for comment. The defendants also claimed that previous case law protected their speech on the Internet under the First Amendment. ``That claim falls on its face'' in the court's ruling, Warren said. Park was also accused of selling stock in companies at the same time he was advocating his subscribers to buy without disclosing that information. ``Because the alleged facts may show that defendants enjoyed a relationship of trust and confidence with their subscribers or may have assumed a duty to disclose, the SEC has properly alleged its claims based on defendants' omissions,'' Judge Kocoras said in his ruling. Park will now have to respond to the charges and a 120-day discovery period was set, according to Warren. The SEC is seeking to force Park and his company to disgorge allegedly ill-gotten gains, including prejudgment interest; to impose civil penalties; and to bar the two from engaging in these activities in the future. 14:22 05-04-00

To: Sir Auric Goldfinger who wrote (7695)	5/5/2000 1:45:00 PM
From: StockDung	Respond to of 10354

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To: Sir Auric Goldfinger who wrote (7695)	5/7/2000 3:43:00 PM
From: StockDung	Respond to of 10354

Anyone have any ideas who alias Meatloaf could be on the ragingbull NWLL and ZSUN message threads. I have a idea who it is. By: CrimsThieves Reply To: 20258 by meatloaf Sunday, 7 May 2000 at 3:37 PM EDT Post # of 20259 TIME TO COME CLEAN MEATLOAF! IVE GOT SOAP The date of this press release is dated July 22. 1999. Your post says you were at GREAT WHITE MARINE & RECREATION on July 23 1999. Time to stop conning unsuspecting investors with your trash talk!! Facts dont lie!! "Then, one day, I decided to "drop" in in JAWS headquraters in Waco, Texas. That day was July 23, 1999...a Thursday as I recall." Title: GREAT WHITE MARINE & RECREATION, INC. ANNOUNCES THE APPOINTMENT OF RAY DIRKS AS FINANCIAL ADVISOR Summary: WACO, Texas, Jul 22, 1999 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- Colin Smith, President and CEO of Great White Marine and Recreation, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: JAWS), is pleased to announce the appointment of Ray Dirks as Financial Advisor to the company. library.northernlight.com. ragingbull.com By: meatloaf Reply To: 2503 by sailbad43 Saturday, 4 Mar 2000 at 1:24 AM EST Post # of 4731 Reply to sailbad43: I read with interest your posting #2503. Permit me to lead off with some relavant facts, which I bring to your attention due to the sense of regulatory-finesse that seems to pervade throughout your message. At the moment, industry observers estimate that 35% of all trading is done online by individuals. These are generally with discount brokers who...unbeknownst to most of the investing public...obtained unqualified exemptions to meeting suitability requirements the regulators otherwise impose upon full-service brokers. In addition, the fourth market (ECN's) represent another 30% of trading volume...also beyond technical regulatory purview. Putting on my analyst's hat, what do these facts tell us. They tell us that the universe of what the regulators used to get involved with has shrunk by about two-thirds. So you have thousands of regulatory "pipple" looking for stuff to do. Hint: Think overstaffing, Sailbad. I can only assume that your reference to employment opportunities means that you must be graduating this summer...so permit me to assist in your job search by guiding you to the fact that the FBI and various State's Attorney's General Offices are furtile ground to recent graduates. Let me know how you make out. Now onto your message. Sometime in March of last year, the meatloaf crowd was quite keen on JAWS. Bought alot of stock around $2. The bloody company emerged as some sort of cult...never saw anything like it, except at a "Trekkie" convention my third wife lampooned me into. Then, one day, I decided to "drop" in in JAWS headquraters in Waco, Texas. That day was July 23, 1999...a Thursday as I recall. The Chairman of JAWS wasn't in, however, his son was. I attended that meeting with another independent analyst. After the requisite 45 minits of Texas horse-feathers, I asked this kid to see a copy of the company's last bank statement (JAWS was supposed to have $6 mil in da' bank at the time). One hour goes by (calling his Dad, I suspect). He says here's the March Statement...but nothing more current. We ask for April or May...nothing. Basically, we conclude, the Company is broke. That's when the stock was at $2.50. Anybody that was part of that cult bailed out...and why in the world you would still be owning that stock at 10 cents is a mystery. As to the FUSA reference in your message, we actually first wrote that up at $4. By the way, earnings and sales came in at precisely our estimates...at a time when no one else was even making forecasts. And finally, isn't this supposed to be a New Tel Message Board. If not, then let me remind you that there was NeoPharm (NEO)last April at $10, Sonic Foundry (SFO) last July at $8, and ZiaSun (ZSUN) last November at $7. Regards, meatloaf