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Politics : About that Cuban boy, Elian -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: average joe who wrote (4231)5/4/2000 9:31:00 AM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 9127
 
I mean by force- the act of not allowing Juan to take his son back- however that might take place- no one here has been very specific about that. Because some people here seem to be implying we should make him (Elian) a US citizen and keep him here regardless of what he and his father want. If you keep some one in a country against their will you are using some kind of force- although the exact types of force you could use vary.

The "malicious fools" on the other side (who prefer to be slaves) only maintain that Juan and Elian should live where they want to live. That Juan should have all the normal rights a parents has even if he IS a Cuban who has the bad sense to want to live in Cuba and even if he did wait 4 months before coming here because he believed the government's assurances that Elian would be returned to Cuba.

Silly us.



To: average joe who wrote (4231)5/4/2000 9:53:00 AM
From: The Barracudaâ„¢  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 9127
 
He is referring to rambi's attempt at "3 card Monte" in her args (the shell game that street charlatans use)

Rambi says that the situation in Cuba for 11-yr. olds is "boarding school."

Implication, no slavery.

Unknown is trying to switch Castro's command and control of Cubans as slavery with Elian's right to freedom.

In Unknown's "Force" comment he is claiming that Freedom is slavery and Slavery is boarding school.

George Orwell in his book "1984" describe that type of argumentative technique. Orwell also described what awaits Elian back in Cuba.