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To: George Dawson who wrote (26717)	5/5/2000 8:54:00 AM
From: w2j2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 29386

George, Point well taken. I am sure Adpt is focusing on SCSI over Gigabit ethernet in the SAN, not FC. Just like Cisco. Speaking of Cisco, John Chambers professes to be technology agnostic. Then why not enter the FC market? If the SAN is going to be as big as everyone says, Cisco is going to be there sooner or later. Maybe he is listening to the proseletizing by Andy B... If and when Cisco enters the FC market, you will know that Gig-ether has lost in the SAN, & FC is headed for the big leagues. Stay tuned. wj

To: George Dawson who wrote (26717)	5/5/2000 9:06:00 AM
From: George Dawson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 29386

The Scoop on SANs: This is a link with the above title from the front page of SI today: Message 13557193 It is from the LU thread. George D.

To: George Dawson who wrote (26717)	5/5/2000 12:04:00 PM
From: Douglas Nordgren	Respond to of 29386

I wouldn't overestimate ADPT either, George. QLGC worked with Sun on this GbE/FC-AL Server Adapter SOC. biz.yahoo.com Sun could outfit a low cost pizza box and bridge FC-AL islands to address the low cost Ethernet SAN market (it seems there will be one). With IPFC and Jiro on the roadmap, the FC-AL hub and loopswitch vendors will take the initial hits in this low end market. 10 GbE still has a ways to go yet before it can present a workable alternative to FC fabric at the high end. Good thing (for them) Zoox is moving to the edge. Chapparal filed their S-1 and presents competition along with Crossroads, Troika, Lightpath, not to mention some optical networking companies. From frying pan to fire? Vixel vexes me. One report says there is a purchasing agreement with Lucent, another says there will be licensing revenues, but their own press release doesn't provide any pecuniary references. Lucent has some catching up to do in FC to DWDM routers/switches. Maybe they just need some parts? It looks to me like zoox and vixl have departed the FC fabric switch market, settling for fabric connectivity modules/software and leaving Ancor and Brocade to duke it out. AIMHO, Douglas

To: George Dawson who wrote (26717)	5/7/2000 1:30:00 AM
From: Eleder2020	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 29386

.>>> Because EtherStorage leverages the existing Ethernet infrastructure and provides storage levels of performance, it is a major step forward in bringing the benefits of SANs to a broader market.<<< George -I wouldn't be to worried about Adaptec-the broader market they mean is really the low end of GE and/or Storage. Adaptec is pretty good on functionality but they really consist of small storage components on things like high end video conferencing walls - real time low resolution video editing and some pretty cool stuff when your taking a presentaton on the road and want to do a live video hook-up to another location. maybe even some palm computing. I've seen their stuff work and they do seems to have some storage components connected to GE like on the video conferencing walls which are basically small LAN based intranets run on GE with storage components -It works pretty well but in the larger picture -small potatoes IMHO. It's certainly doesn't seem like the future to me and to my eye looks pretty lousy(very low resolution stuff) so far compared to what has come out on FC even 3-4 years ago. I wouldn't overestimate them yet. How's your photo work in progress going -It's getting better. Ed