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To: Charles R who wrote (109452)	5/5/2000 9:13:00 AM
From: vince doran	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1578450

Chuck, Scumbria, Kap: Chuck: Do you think the market knows yet that there is a problem with KX133 and Tbird? I spoke to J. Joseph's (SSB tech analyst, been ahead of the curve on AMD compared to most) assistant yesterday afternoon, and he hadn't heard about it. Scumbria: AMDzone has another set of TBird/Duron benches in; they look pretty similar to the earlier HARDOCP ones, i.e. not much improvement over K75. Do you think this is possible? Kap: Why do you say that AMD has a ton of K75 wafers? Cheers, Vince

To: Charles R who wrote (109452)	5/5/2000 11:25:00 AM
From: Petz	Respond to of 1578450

Chuck, re:<<The remaining question is what happens when you overclock the Celeron to 850MHz or beyond; only then will the Duron have problems keeping up because it currently takes an Athlon 800 or an 850 to match or beat the performance of a Celeron overclocked to 850MHz on a BX board.>> <This doesn't make sense to me. I cannot see any realistic scenario or any MHz where Celeron would outperform Spitfire.Does anyone?> No, he's grasping at straws to find a situation where it might make sense to buy a Celeron. If you overclock your 566 MHz celeron 128 to 850 MHz by using a 100 MHz bus (which doesn't require AGP overclocking), you might be able to beat a 600 MHz Duron. But then he tells us that his Celeron would not overclock to 850. Actually, he could have tried some other bus speeds, like 75 MHz, but he didn't, which tells me it wouldn't overclock at all. Besides the fact that it might CRACK. Which is what these overclockers eat for breakfast! Petz