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To: QwikSand who wrote (31630)5/7/2000 12:39:00 PM
From: JC Jaros  Respond to of 64865
 
I think that was 'Warren G' and it was "crackers will always just dis you". --- I think though, Qwiksand that it's COMPLETELY about bad software. Bad software could even include ANY software that has quality issues brought to light. The stuff that's making the headlines and causing international boy hunts (Microsoft Macro Viri <tm>) are very much though, about 'Crapware'. It's coming to a head, I think. When it rains, it pours in Redmond. -JCJ



To: QwikSand who wrote (31630)5/7/2000 7:01:00 PM
From: Richard J. Haynal  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 64865
 
Hi,

I've been a lurker for quite sometime but on this issue I feel the need to chime in. I am in charge of security on our network. I think it is lame to reward anyone for causing this level of damage (or any for that matter). It is not a *service to show people how vulnerable they are!

Think about it. Do we reward killers for showing us how quickly our life can end (we could get them enlisted in the armed forces), do we reward thieves for showing us how quickly our belonging can disappear (maybe a nice job in home security), do we reward con men/women for showing us it is not good to be trusting (how about financial consultant)? Hell ... we're not even that friendly with bad brokers who take the time to show us that a fool and his/her money are easily parted (another candidate for financial advisor ... ok forget that one).

Point being it really is NOT ok to show us how vulnerable we are. Anyone in network security already realizes this and that their job is really "risk management".

They need to start punishing instead of rewarding "script kiddies" (short of the death penalty) and at the same time customers need to let software vendors (especially MS) know that security is important and their software engineers need to factor this in.

Now back to lurking.