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To: Richard J. Haynal who wrote (31664)	5/8/2000 12:43:00 PM
From: JC Jaros	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

This is the prime delivery method for virus attacks against MS machines --- What a coincidence! Scripting is the stuff that the teenagers all learn! :) -JCJ

To: Richard J. Haynal who wrote (31664)	5/8/2000 1:30:00 PM
From: QwikSand	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

We're talking past each other quite a bit, but that's ok. We'll agree to disagree. Most of Microsoft's customers were NOT aware for years that a malicious virus delivery mechanism was built into the software. Those who were aware, such as yourself, and did nothing about it, have only themselves to blame. What's our algorithm? Pay a software vendor who builds a well-known trap door into every system you own, sit around knowing full well that it can be exploited AND THAT IT COULD BE FIXED, and then when some kid exploits it, it's his fault? Not your fault? Tell me another. Don't tell me that one again. I'm not going to believe it, because it's obviously not true. This is not the same as a thief breaking into your locked car. For my grandmother it might be like that, but not for you, because you're a security expert. This is the same as you buying a car that was built without doors. Mostly YOUR fault. Microsoft's too, the thief's fault too, but mostly yours. We agree that no network is secure, even a Unix-only network with knowledgable staff, management support and all the tools they need. All we can do is find the holes as they become known and patch 'em up, knowing that there are always others still to be found. You say "we do know". That's absurd. Yes, you know about Basic scripting in Windows. Are you seriously trying to tell me you know about all the security holes in Unix networking, including the ones you can't know about because no one knows about them yet? Clearly impossible, plus it would contradict your own statement that no network is secure. The point I was making is, I would rather find out about them from a delinquent than from a serious saboteur. I can't understand how that's remotely controversial. The love bug kid was a delinquent, not a saboteur. Regards, --QS