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To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (44656)5/10/2000 3:50:00 PM
From: johnd  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74651
 
Why approaching a new low of 65? If it breaks below, where is the next stop?



To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (44656)5/10/2000 4:46:00 PM
From: Frederick Smart  Respond to of 74651
 
Jacob....

>>way OT:

T. Paine was great at tearing down the existing Order. But people like him are incapable of creating the post-revolution New Order. If societies let his kind stay in authority, you end up with chaos. Look at Russia today. Thousands of children are dying from easily preventable childhood diseases like diptheria, because the system for immunizing children has broken down. Chaos, violence, poverty. That's what idealists (like you) and revolutionaries bring. Tear down all the old dams, and don't replace them with new dams, and that's what you get. It takes people like Jefferson and Washington (and, even more so, Hamilton) to build and create.>>

Dams are mearly a figment of our imaginations. They only are dams and they only have the restrictive/structured power that we give them.

The "dam" model is breaking down worldwide.

We are moving away from power/control/structure of politics into a world that's more transparent.

It's so much harder to play the Old games today. For there are fewer places to hide.

>>You said: "I'm just one of the few ... to "see" and "get" this stuff". You are an elitist, as well as an idealist.>>

Call me whatever you want. You have every right to label, judge, perceive the world whatever way that fits "your" view/belief/value system. I'm just more of an optimist.

>>Re: "Isn't ALL "work" SERVICE to others?" No. For 99.8% of us, work is what we do to put food on the table. That has been true for the last 10,000 years, and I don't expect it to change. Being "useful" or "fulfilled" is an extra, a luxury, that very, very few can afford (mostly people like Jefferson, who are born rich and live off the sweat of slaves).>>

You define "fullfillment" relative to your value chain: ie. money having precedence. Money only has power which we give it - again based on our values. If things outside of ourselves have more value than things inside ourselves we will place less value on ourselves. It's that simple.

And that's how dams and pyramids get built.

And the power comes purely the elitist values you ascribe to me.

Let's face it, mankind lives of the energy of others. If we were living off the REAL energy and values of truth, honesty and integrity which I believe we all were blessed with the knowledge of, we'd be living in a different world.

I will argue that growth of freedom and liberty, however painfully slow the struggle may have been - and it's far from over - is fueled by an entirely different value set that "our" selfish dam building structural attempts at creating order amidst chaos.

Some of the richest people in the world are slaves to their own fears and desires for more. For "more" of nothing is nothing. The water behind dams just doesn't move. That's the problem. We lose this vital sense of relative shared value and connectedness which is needed if we are ever going to appreciate living a life of service to others.

The Internet Spirit is making this a peaceful revolution. There are no guns. The only thing unpeaceful will be the reaction of those who defensively try to hold onto - ie. possess - the same energy-taking dam building model.

Peace.

GO!!