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To: Cary Salsberg who wrote (35198)	5/11/2000 5:07:00 PM
From: Pink Minion	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 70976

How productive is it to read 99.999% bullshit on these threads? I personally believe our productivity gains these last five years are 90 percent rooted in the invention of HTML and not the Internet. The Internet has been around for 30 some years, but HTML allow the easy development of information dispensing application. My Dilbert career started in 1985 for Nortel. I was hired to develop an application that today would take 3 maybe 4 days to complete. Then - 6 months and if and only if the project was successful. 50 percent of IT projects end in failure. Back then, there were no computers on the manufacturing floor nor did engineers have one. And we were a high tech company!!! The Telcos were/are ten times worse. The next ten years, computers were mainly use for e-mail and doing charts. HTML allowed our company to get rid of whole departments. Too bad the browser wasn't invented in 1990 when it should have been. MH

To: Cary Salsberg who wrote (35198)	5/11/2000 5:21:00 PM
From: Ian@SI	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 70976

Cary, You could easily solve the BS ratio problem. Post more frequently. I believe there's a parallel to what's happening now and the "electrification" of industry. Initially, massive electrical engines replaced the waterfall driven conveyor belt systems. It took more than 4 decades before industry's power sources were miniaturized and rolled out in terms of small, integrated electric motors where and as needed. A similar process is now unfolding on a global basis transforming practically every process in every company (or will do so during the next decade or so). This rate of innovation is unprecedented. And innovation is a source of excess profits. And AMAT and the rest of the sector will see abnormal profit growth during that rollout. IMO, Ian.

To: Cary Salsberg who wrote (35198)	5/11/2000 9:29:00 PM
From: Kirk ©	Respond to of 70976

Cary.. I hope you are not referring to your post. 8) When was electricity "invented"? Some guys in Italy "discovered" it centuries ago... (400 or 500 yrs?) Some guy with a kite played with a more recently (Ben Franklin) Thomas Edison figured out what filliment and gas combination would work to make light about a century ago. My mother's cabin in the woods still uses trucked in propane for light... no electricity there... except for the portable generators. HTML was "invented" in early 1990's and my first use was some prototype called MOSAIC I got through an HP Labs - Stanford University connection. Less than a decade later my brother is importing masks from Bali that he sells at flea markets and is starting to sell on the internet via eBay. I don't think he has ever written a program (unless it was in a math class in college 20 years ago). The speed of adoption now is really something. I DO NOT think it compares to anything we have seen in the past other than Moore's Law which is making it all possible. regards Kirk out