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Technology Stocks : JDS Uniphase (JDSU) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: t2 who wrote (10236)5/12/2000 12:48:00 PM
From: Murrey Walker  Respond to of 24042
 
t2...agreed. I think SEBL is a good case in point as to what (or, what doesn't) happens when the event (membership in the fraternity) takes place. I don't think SEBLs recent moves have been driven by anything other than their inherent strength. JMO.



To: t2 who wrote (10236)5/12/2000 1:40:00 PM
From: Curtis E. Bemis  Respond to of 24042
 
MEDI gets in--

This, for our resident S&P500 guy ;-))

MedImmune (MEDI) 169 3/4 +15 1/16: Company to be added to the S&P 500 Index. MEDI will replace Central & South West Corp. (CSR) as American Electric Power (AEP) is acquiring Central & South West. IDEC Pharmaceuticals (IDPH) will replace MEDI in the S&P MidCap 400 and Roadway Express (ROAD) will replace IDPH in the S&P SmallCap 600 Index.



To: t2 who wrote (10236)5/12/2000 3:20:00 PM
From: Ben Wa  Respond to of 24042
 
A clear concern for anyone investing in "this type" of stock, meaning bellweather, high p/e is whether the p/e can expand beyond the current point on forward eps estimates. The "size" effect of a reduction in eps gwth took a long time to hit MSFT, but it has hit. (Let's ignore the other MSFT issues). Severe danger exists when a high multiple stock experiences an unexpected slowdown in eps growth. At that point, estimates get cut plus the P/E on those estimates get decimated. With the March quarter, JDSU surprised on the upside by a little bit, which means the street is very close to matching the company's performance in terms of JDSU not beating expectations. THAT is getting close to an inflection point. My guess is that Tony Muller's saying to look for 20% revenue growth sequentially in the June quarter will be exceeded, but the important thing to ponder is what would happen if it were NOT exceeded. At that point, you do not want to own the stock. I have also started to think about double ordering more in the optical space, and the risk this poses as capacity (fixed costs) come online. Once these fixed costs are up and running, they are there for good. Timing when supply begins to catch up with true demand, whatever that is, will be tricky. A last issue is the accounting thing - one of the problems that high flying stocks got into late last year and early this year was that people could not justify valuation on P/E, so they threw that out and used market cap vs. revenues - how Van Casper came up with nutty price targets for MRVC. The same thing applies to cash earnings, in ignoring the goodwill charges. If as an investor, you ignore goodwill, you essentially state that for the acquiroring company, it does not matter if they paid $1 million over book value for the thing they bought, or $1 trillion dollars. To somebody running a real business, they do care about the price of acquisitions. In many areas of techland, unrealistic prices have been paid for acquisitions because they have been paid for with stock. And, for some sellside analysts, an acquistion paid for in overvalued stock translates into true economic value. Example, take The Globe.COM - a POS that used to be hot. Assume mgt of Globe knew their firm was a POS, but their stock was in the ozone. Why not buy something of true economic value with that funnymoney? They may know that acquis target X is worth $5 million, but who cares if they pay $20 million in Globe stock for it? a very interesting world we live in.



To: t2 who wrote (10236)5/12/2000 8:25:00 PM
From: RR  Respond to of 24042
 
Hi t2: Been awhile. JDSU still my number one holding. Agree with what you said....

I prefer to get JDSU added in the late fall as momentum turns to the Nasdaq. That would be perfect for a great runup. For now it is lacking positive EBITDA (and a PE) and that seems to be a a very important factor. They could always make an exception for JDSU as they probably are able to exercise judgement as well.

A summer addition will probably not result in significant move in the stock.


I think the Naz will climb from here but with bumps and sellers along the way. 6 months from now will be significantly better. I'd be afraid that any good news on JDSU near term would have little effect the way this market is now (i.e. QCOM today, cdma news) versus later on as you said.

Still a BULL.

Rick