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To: Daniel W. Koehler who wrote (3623)5/13/2000 6:33:00 PM
From: chalu2  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 13062
 
You seem very much consumed with what the Jewish community thinks of certain issues. You also tend to defend the German soldiers of World War Two. Take that, and couple it with the German-sounding name Koehler, and I am not surprised that your Jewish "friends" do not want you to have a gun. What other statistics do you gather, and what other investigations do you conduct, into the opinions of the Jewish community, Mr. Koehler?

I don't know why I should answer your inappropriate question, but as I've made clear on these threads over the last few months I am a semi-religious Catholic (Polish/Italian) who very vigorously opposes abortion and Bob Jones University (I must have submitted 100 posts on their anti-Catholic stance). I may have submitted the same number explaining my opposition to abortion.

I am sorry I cannot provide you with more information on the Jewish community's views, Mr. Koehler. I am just not as obsessed with this topic as you are. However, I am sure you will make time to delve further into these Jewish Questions, and supply a detailed report to the group.



To: Daniel W. Koehler who wrote (3623)5/13/2000 9:44:00 PM
From: Don Lloyd  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 13062
 
Daniel -

[...The fallacy of your argument is that people shouldn't be given arms for protection because they can't win. That, my friend, is the logical fallacy of begging the question, or assuming as a given the very point you are trying to prove. A case of circular reasoning...]

To my mind, the best argument for the second amendment is its deterrent effect. In the absence of registration, any potential tyrant, and his agents, cannot as easily make an optimistic miscalculation of the costs of confiscation. Every household potentially harbors one or more guns, whether it actually does or not. Thus, even households that would have completely complied with any registration law, whether or not they own a gun, would help deter an attempt for absolute power.

Regards, Don