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To: chalu2 who wrote (3637)	5/14/2000 10:30:00 AM
From: Daniel W. Koehler	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13062

<<The opposition to a vote on this issue reflects the knowledge that the U.S. citizenry would not agree with you. No need to respond. Ich nehme Sie nicht Bemhungen, diesen Platz frei zu machen von den polnischen Leuten an. >> First, how dare you to presume to know what the American citizenry wants. Arrogant talk of a schizo. Second, to the thread: Guys, to translate Chalu2s last inchoate post in German, he is saying: "I don't expect you would take the trouble to make THIS place free of the Polish people." Explain yourself please. If you mean what I think you do, you are WAY OUT OF LINE and I, for one will ask that you be removed from the thread. Daniel By the way, I am Polish on my grandmother's side (Siepela)

To: chalu2 who wrote (3637)	5/14/2000 3:39:00 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13062

The opposition to a vote on this issue reflects the knowledge that the U.S. citizenry would not agree with you. No need to respond. My oposition to a vote on this issue reflects the fact that our constituional rights should not be up for majority vote to disapear any time they become momentarily unpopular. I am unsure of who would actually win such a vote. I suspect that a slightly larger percentage would support gun control than 2nd amendment rights. I also think that on the average those who support 2nd amendment rights have somewhat stronger feelings about the issue (and thus would be more likely to turn up to vote). I think a vote outright to repeal the 2nd amendment or directly ban guns would fail, but incrimental infringement on our 2nd amendment rights would be likely to work. This has been happening allready, ban some category of guns, or make guns more difficult to get, then later another category of guns becomes the target. In any case what the majority would vote for is not directly relevant to the question of how the constitution protects out right to keep and bear arms. (It is indirectly relevant because any constitutional protection will be ignored or repealed if it is unpopular enough). Tim