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Politics : About that Cuban boy, Elian -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Jon Tara who wrote (5282)	5/14/2000 2:43:00 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9127

<<where are "all the people" promoting letting Elian decide on this thread? >> Jon, I've been following this thread from the beginning. It's been discussed before. To no conclusion, I might add. <<Are you saying that the welfare of the child should be sacrificed for the greater good??? I wouldn't say "sacrificed" but I do think this case needs to be decided in the context of all those other children, absolutely. If I were little Elian and I got to decide, a decision I probably would see as a choice between being with my papa and little brother and having lots and lots of toys and ice cream, and I grew up to find out that my choice contributed to a bunch of little American girls suffering genital mutilation in other countries, I couldn't live with the guilt. I absolutely think this case needs to be decided according to all applicable international agreements. The U.S. can't expect other countries to follow international agreements if it doesn't. It's irresponsible to for adults to put that burden on Elian. Well before you shared your story with us it was obvious that you had some intense personal experience that shaped your thinking. I understand why you put such a priority on asking Elian. I'm just suggesting that, while that factor is prominent in your thinking, it's not the only factor to be considered. Karen

To: Jon Tara who wrote (5282)	5/14/2000 3:01:00 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9127

At 7 you did not comprehend everything involving your custody. I understand your need to say that- I am sure your mother did her best- as she had every RIGHT to legally do. There is no way you could have understood the educational advantages you might have had- the opportunities for advancement outside of school, and the general opportunities of mixing with people who have all those same advantages. You could not possibly have comprehended the danger of your environment- and (imo) although you survived you made a bad decision. I think the irresponsibility of your mother is illustrated in her pushing an ADULT decision on you. But that is typical of alcoholic homes- the children are forced to parent the parent. Most people do NOT see that as the proper environment for a child. Now, was she irresponsible enough to LEGALLY be forced to allow the state to choose (or allow the state to allow YOU to choose) against her wishes- no. There are lots of irresponsible parents around. I had some myself- and some children can flourish DESPITE the stupid decisions of their parents- but that does NOT make those cases exemplars of correct child rearing.