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To: Neocon who wrote (2820)	5/16/2000 1:24:00 AM
From: Self-Retired	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3246

I did not find Sigmund Freud in the list, don't you think that his conception of Levels of Consciousness reserved a place for him? A. Consciousness - deals with reality, is tied to your perception of the external world. Operates on the Reality Principle. B. Preconscious - contains material that can easily be brought into consciousness (3 X 7 = ?). C. Unconscious (most important) Today it sounds as such a common place, but before he said so nobody thought that way.

To: Neocon who wrote (2820)	5/16/2000 11:43:00 AM
From: Raymond Clutts	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3246

If we still need to include one of Clarke's novels (and I believe we do) then I'd vote for "Childhood's End" in preference to "2001". I've always thought that the group mind concept that originated in "Childhood's End" was one of the enduring themes of SF together with time travel(Wells), multigeneration star ships (Heinlein), and a few other recurring plots that speak to our greatest hopes and deepest fears. Now all we have to do is figure out which one of the other ten novels are discarded. In the current iteration of Star Trek-Deep Space Nine, the only plots with any real interest involve the continually reappearing of the Borg who threaten to subsume one's identity. Permit me a literary diversion for a moment, is that plot related to one's fear of death or is it some other recurring fear? As for Art. (Didn't he play second base for the Sox?) Well I guess that I shouldn't express such reactionary views without first examining the subject matter with greater effort. If only I could care about what modern artists were trying to express to the same extent that I do classical artists' themes. Actually, I would also offer these as additional criticisms of modern art: it's appearance is unappealing (yes-what I really mean is that its not pretty when its subject is appealing or even well drawn when more troubling issues are dealt with) and its content is impenetrable to any member of the lay public without first immersing yourself in its critical context (yes-what I really mean is that I can't understand it without a lot of work and frankly its lack of craftsmanship doesn't seem to warrant the extra effort).