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Politics : About that Cuban boy, Elian -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lane3 who wrote (5436)	5/16/2000 12:57:00 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9127

If you get asylum you are (I think) free to leave. If I remember correctly some famous dissidents have had asylum here and then chosen to return to fight for freedom in their own countries- even though they had asylum here. Doesn't asylum merely mean you aren't an illegal alien?

To: Lane3 who wrote (5436)	5/16/2000 1:19:00 PM
From: jhild	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9127

Karen, I must confess it is the second time I have brought this concept of enforced asylum up. Indeed asylum is a grant and not a sentence. That is the whole flaw in the enforced freedom that the students of Aristotle and Ayn Rand would force on others. Not only is the issue of who speaks for Elian with regard to seeking asylum an issue, but who shall speak for Elian about whether he takes advantage of it if granted. If you cannot take Elian away from his father, then he is free to leave and return to Cuba. If you do take Elian away from his father, then given that there is no other cause (there has been no representation yet that Juan is abusive to his son) but that he would return him to Cuba, then the precedent is highly disturbing.

To: Lane3 who wrote (5436)	5/16/2000 4:33:00 PM
From: Master (Hijacked)	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9127

Karen, The whole case is moot. Some of the low breeds here on this thread don't seem to understand that the court is simply hearing whether Elian has the right to apply for asylum. Elian is obviously a minor. Unless some court strips him of his rights, Juan remains his guardian. As his guardian Juan will be the one who determines where Elian will live, regardless of the court's decision. Since the father, Juan, has already stated his intention to return to Cuba it is why I say the case is moot. Furthermore, for the deadbeat relatives in Miami to gain custody of the child in the hope of becoming the "guardian", they would have to prove that Juan is an incompetent father. IMO, I would think a judge and/or jury would be very hardpressed to remove Elian from what appears to be a loving family. Vince