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To: THE WATSONYOUTH who wrote (31978)5/16/2000 5:37:00 PM
From: Michael L. Voorhees  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 64865
 
<Itanium Win2000 threat> I really don't see this threat
yet. We've been hearing about this for so long it sounds
more like someone crying "wolf". Same old verbage just
different messenger. Comparatively, WinTel is now in
more of a corner than SUNW is or has been. Competitively,
WinTel will always be somewhat of a threat but relatively
they are probably at the lowest threat to SUNW that we have
seen. Anitrust suit, major AMD penetration into INTC, behind the curve technology in InterNet services, lack of support for the programming language of the InterNET; Java, and yes Windows absolute pitifull product quality that continues to propogate into Win2000. SUNW's future outlook seems
better than ever.

And benchmarks, well if we go with benchmarks, Dec Alpha's
would have been the market leader not INTC/M$FT. It will take IBM
major market cycles to even have any real recognition
whatsoever after the apparent abandonment (might I add at an
extremely inopportune time) of the RS6000 systems. A possible client would have to ask "Well when are you going
to abandom me the next time around?" IBM is oscillating (as well as MSFT) at MHZ levels around the market they want to pursue (ala testing the waters). SUNW is ahead of the curve and has market focus baby and that is what has paid off; i.e. no wasted clock cycles.



To: THE WATSONYOUTH who wrote (31978)5/16/2000 5:57:00 PM
From: cheryl williamson  Respond to of 64865
 
Re: continuous downplay on the significance of processor performance on the ultimate commercial success of
these systems is to me just plain ludicrous.


Processor performance is indeed an important criteria
for the ultimate success of any enterprise system, but
so are service, support, reliability, availability, O/S quality, applications platforms, future company direction,
etc. etc. etc.

Example: If DELL came out with enterprise class servers
that were whiz-bang on the performance stats would YOU
risk your entire e-commerce enterprise on them???? What
good is a speedy cpu & cache if you can't get anyone on
the line to fix the O/S bugs, or show up on-site with
QUALITY SE's to fix your network problems??? I could
go on and on with this, but you get the point. You must
realize that PC's have always been sold on the basis
of hot-rod stats because they have always been boxes
for hobbyists and gamers. Business and enterprise
computing is a different market altogether, so the rules
of entry and engagement are qualitatively different.

Does Sun have competition? Yes. Who? Primarily IBM
and somewhat HP. Now CPQ is throwing its hat into the
ring (they're no threat to Sun just yet). Will Sun
lose some sales to IBM? Sure. Will it be only because
of CPU price/performance stats. I doubt it. Will Sun
win some sales from IBM? Sure. Will it be only because
of superior RAS?? I doubt it. Sun can't sit around and
charge big bucks for systems that run too slow to meet
the capacity demands of high-end customers any more than
anyone else.

You see, the key to success is brand recognition. Right
now Sun's is golden. It's golden because they have worked
extra hard for years to get there. This means that
existing and prospective customers believe that, no matter
what IBM,HWP, or CPQ come up with, Sun will have an
adequate answer for. Right now the server market is
Sun's to lose. If they execute as they have in the past,
the stock price will reflect the steady 25-35% increase
in year-over-year profits and not get any more expensive
than it is now.

One more thing. Please don't debase your otherwise good
posts by mentioning W2K in the same sentence with Solaris.

cheers,
cherylw