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Politics : About that Cuban boy, Elian -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: average joe who wrote (5472)	5/16/2000 10:37:00 PM
From: Master (Hijacked)	Respond to of 9127

SUB, A hearing for what? Is it possible that your IQ doesn't surpass your shoe size? Is it possible that you cannot comprehend the fact that this is a 6 year old boy? Is it possible that you cannot comprehend that this boy has a father? Someone like you probably doesn't have the capabilities to reproduce and even if you did you'd probably be spilling it in the toilet bowl, but suppose you did have a child and your mate decided to take your child to the States, would you not want your child be returned to you? What if some cloned idiot in the U.S. decided to request asylum on behalf of your child simply because he doesn't like you or the country you come from, would you think it justified? What about your rights as the child's father. Think for God's sake. Your Master

To: average joe who wrote (5472)	5/16/2000 10:42:00 PM
From: Master (Hijacked)	Respond to of 9127

Sub Sub average, Are you a lawyer? Or, do you simply polish lawyers' shoes? Who has authority to speak on the boy's behalf? Your Master

To: average joe who wrote (5472)	5/16/2000 10:45:00 PM
From: jhild	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9127

Technically speaking he is not a "landed immigrant" as you would claim. He is in the custody of the INS because he was picked up at sea by the US Coast Guard. He did not successfully make land fall of his own accord. So he is not a "landed immigrant". He was turned over to the INS at the hospital where he was taken by the CG. The INS subsequently "paroled him temporarily" to his great uncle Lazaro. That parole was revoked and the INS sent in their officers to retrieve the boy when the Relatives refused to comply with the order to physically return him to the INS at Opa Laka Airport. The INS was transferring physical custody to his father, which they subsequently did after employing force to retrieve him. The real issue of the case before the 11 Circuit is whether the Relatives can submit an asylum application and force a hearing on the issue of asylum against the wishes of his father. As has already been noted even if asylum is granted it will be moot if legal (not just physical) custody remains with his father. To date I don't think there is any action to remove legal custody from his father, so exactly where this asylum hearing will lead is highly questionable to me. So in fact none of it is monstrous except perhaps the idea that some people would sentence young Elian to a life away from his father because they would grant him asylum and force him to take it.

To: average joe who wrote (5472)	5/16/2000 10:50:00 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 9127

I think most people wouldn't find it would be monstrous to send Elian home without an asylum hearing if the court decides that children cannot petition for asylum without their parents if their parents do not want them to petition (except in very a very small minority of particularly abusive cases.) I think most people would be comfortable with that. You are probably in a very small minority to think that would be monstrous. Not that that makes you wrong.