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To: nasdaqian who wrote (50659)5/17/2000 3:21:00 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 71178
 
We recently had a foundation poured and a small patio- no cracks, not even little ones. It isn't supposed to crack. Whoever did it should re-do it for you.



To: nasdaqian who wrote (50659)5/17/2000 4:20:00 PM
From: Gauguin  Respond to of 71178
 
You're velcome. Just an opinion; without seeing who and what did what, et al; which is potentially complex.

<<<Maybe it lies in the exact definition, but what do you mean no one uses concrete anymore?>>>

That was a leetle construction-humor. Hee hee. Yah. Couldn't help myself. I was pissed off about your situation.

"....is it normal for concrete to develop a twenty foot long, .10 inch wide crack...."

Oh yah. It happens all the time. No one uses concrete anymore.


Concrete is the most common construction mtl in the world. It wouldn't be, if that was normal.

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Here's what I would do:

~ You now know what the Contractor who is responsible for the pour, as either GC (General Contractor) or the Sub, hopes will happen. Nothing. (It's very expensive.) (He hopes you're stupid, too.)

~ It isn't acceptable. Cause and fault and remedy need to be assessed. You'll learn it isn't acceptable as you ask other people in the profession.

~ "Info is God." Call the County or City. Ask to talk to someone who knows slabs. Pours. Concrete. Tell them what happened. You need to call them, locally, anyway, to put part of the pcs together for what happened. They are impartial, and the best place to start before you start calling the GC's competitors for Their Opinion. Maybe say, to the bldg dept guy/gal, "Maybe I could take a cpl polaroids and bring them in to show you." Yum. Simple.

~ Then you rest a little, and call a different GC or a different concrete Sub/GC, and tell them you want to know what to do and are considering replacement. FIND OUT ACTUALLY what each of those things is going to cost. "Info is God." Never confont the original GC until you know EVERYTHING about what the costs and NEXT MOVES are. Be ready, be ready, be ready. Steps ahead. (Baden Powell.)

~ Don't talk to the original Contractor, if you already got his opinion/blowoff. It's unnecessary.

~ Even the City may have authority to make it be replaced, depending on again, where this is. That's for you to find out.

~ Letter to GC: Offer options and demand for solution.

~ Same letter/report/request for remedy goes to your Attorney, which is CC'ed on the letter.

~ GC's put up bonds, which are ever in danger, iffn they don't remedy these sitches. They will protect it, because they can't work in your State without it. You are an annoying little fuck who has them over a barrel.

~ Time to remedy. (Propose a timetable for agreement to remedy and completion, or legal action.)

~ Be calm, take the steps one at a time. It's all doable, and actually not that hard, broken down. It's like a tiny homework assignment. A hobby. I wouldn't be freaked about it at all. Really. USE THE MAIL; and the PHONE for info sources. For heck's sake, that's what attorneys do. They don't call donkeys on the phone and tell them to move. Just write down the info you get, people's names, make them friends, ask for their help, or opinion, remember them. Remember the City and County work for You ~ it's part of the bldg permit fees they charged You in the beginning, these services are. This public info is. From the Building Dept. The Building Inspector. He works for you. Really.

~ Do things thru the mail, with the GC. Always. Registered mail. No phone calls. You don't need them; they will upset you; they show a lack of professionalism and experience. "Paper is Bhuddha."

Remember: "Paper is Bhuddha." U.S. Mail, is Bodhisattva.

You don't have to talk to this guy. Completely unnecessary. "Put it in writing," is also your monologue. Do not accept calls unless you have good reason; and still, reiterate the monologue. DO NOT ACCEPT CALLS. "They" have paper, which you need, too. FORCE THEM TO USE IT.

~ "Thou shalt not deny what's on the paper there, that you signed recvd from the USPO."

~ This approach, while being the same precise steps to a cool and quick legal confrontation, specifies time and conditions to remedy, and lets "Them" know You're Coming. Down the road. At 'em. Hard. Ready.

The nice part about this, is they know you're going both ways. To Court and to a remedy. And they're going along.

~ jmho



To: nasdaqian who wrote (50659)5/17/2000 4:46:00 PM
From: Ish  Respond to of 71178
 
<<The cracks are perpendicular to the exp. joints. >>

Could be any # of things. The product might have been too wet, you got a "hot" load, no tamped gravel base, grade wasn't level, you didn't get a full 4' pour, it wasn't worked long enough to settle, it wasn't allowed to cure slowly enough or shit happens.