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To: Ilaine who wrote (4384)5/18/2000 9:07:00 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 5853
 
Thanks for the education CobaltB. But my dictionary says a trust of the kind to which 'anti-trust' refers was an association of companies organized for defeating competition, obliging the shareholders in each to transfer their stock to a central committee and to surrender voting rights while retaining rights to profit shares.

That sounds how it would have been to me.

In regard to monopolies, merchants will always charge what the market will bear. It seems silly to talk about 'hurting' consumers. Any charge is a 'hurt'. Any company has a monopoly over their product and very few products are completely fungible. Hence, your definition 1 = <...abuse of free commerce by which one or more individuals have procured the advantage of selling alone all of a particular kind of merchandise, to the detriment of the public.> applies to all products. No two products or points of sale are identical. So it's a matter of defining closely enough the business one is interested in proving to be a monopoly, then all can be declared to be monopolies.

While it might seem mean of MSFT to refuse to let somebody use their software unless all computers sold by that person paid the fee, whether they included the software or not, that's up to the dealer to accept or reject the software offer. It would help stop software stealing! The dealer could reject the software altogether if they choose. Maybe it would mean they'd need to go into another line of business or sell a competing software/computer package.

I think each should be allowed to make that choice.

Okay, I give up - I need to keep my time here in perspective...
Mqurice



To: Ilaine who wrote (4384)5/22/2000 11:41:00 AM
From: pat mudge  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 5853
 
In isolation I doubt insider trading is a big issue, but when it becomes pervasive the message takes on more meaning. Avanex 144s keep pouring in. GG may have to re-name his list the telechasm. :)

Insider Name Rel # of Shares Trans Type Trans Date(s) Trans Price(s) Trans Value ($mm) Total Holdings D/I Own Owned Amend # Date Entered

1. MOSS, GARY - 11,250 144 8/3/00 - $1.46 - - - - 5/12/00

2. BS & A MYERS PARTNERS P 3,690 144 5/4/00 - $0.41 - - - - 5/19/00

3. ENDOWMENT VTR PTS III,LP - 41,853 144 5/4/00 - $4.66 - - - - 5/17/00

4. FONG, KEVIN & SALLY TR P 27,009 144 5/4/00 - $2.94 - - - - 5/12/00

5. HEIDRICH FAMILY PARTNERS I P 12,914 144 5/4/00 - $1.37 - - - - 5/19/00

6. HIRSCH, RUSSELL C. P 19,039 144 5/4/00 - $2.08 - - - - 5/12/00

7. HUTTON LIVING TRUST P 14,426 144 5/4/00 - $1.59 - - - - 5/19/00

8. MYERS, FRANK & SUSAN(TRUST) P 6,302 144 5/4/00 - $0.69 - - - - 5/19/00

9. NASSAU CAPITAL FUNDS,LP P 35,414 144 5/4/00 - $3.86 - - - - 5/12/00

10. PAVLOV REVOCABLE TRUST P 2,599 144 5/4/00 - $0.29 - - - - 5/12/00

11. ROBLEDA PARTNERS, L.P. P 11,622 144 5/4/00 - $1.24 - - - - 5/19/00

12. TATOOSH PARTNERS M. P 4,612 144 5/4/00 - $0.50 - - - - 5/19/00

13. UNGER-LUCHSINGER FMY TR P 12,367 144 5/4/00 - $1.32 - - - - 5/19/00

14. UNIVERSITY OF NOTRE DAME - 16,097 144 5/4/00 - $1.79 - - - - 5/17/00

15. WEEKS, MARK P 125 144 5/4/00 - $0.01 - - - - 5/12/00

16. CREUSA CORP - 21,731 144 5/3/00 - $2.60 - - - - 5/10/00

17. DONOHUE, WILLIAM R. P 313 144 5/3/00 - $0.03 - - - - 5/17/00

18. HARMONY INVESTMENT LTD P 1,610 144 5/3/00 - $0.18 - - - - 5/19/00

19. HARVARD PRIV CAP H INC - 21,731 144 5/3/00 - $2.60 - - - - 5/15/00

20. HB-PGGM FUND II, L.P. P 25,756 144 5/3/00 - $3.08 - - - - 5/18/00

21. HORSLEY BRIDGE FD IV, LP P 80,486 144 5/3/00 - $9.61 - - - - 5/18/00

22. JAFCO CO., LTD. - 55,000 144 5/3/00 - $6.05 - - - - 5/17/00

23. JAFCO G-6 (A) - 15,000 144 5/3/00 - $1.65 - - - - 5/15/00

24. JAFCO G-6 (B) - 15,000 144 5/3/00 - $1.65 - - - - 5/15/00

25. JAFCO JS-3 INVST ENTR PRTNSH - 15,000 144 5/3/00 - $1.65 - - - - 5/17/00

26. JAFCO R-3 INVSTMNT ENTRP PRT - 15,000 144 5/3/00 - $1.65 - - - - 5/17/00

27. US INF TECHNLG INV PRTNSH#2 - 400,000 144 5/3/00 - $44.00 - - - - 5/17/00

28. YOUNGE, ROBERT G. P 313 144 5/3/00 - $0.04 - - - - 5/15/00

29. COLE, L&J `88 REV.TR P 783 144 5/2/00 - $0.08 - - - - 5/15/00

30. EATON-YARA `93 FMY TR - 783 144 5/2/00 - $0.08 - - - - 5/15/00

31. GIBBONS, FRED M. P 313 144 5/2/00 - $0.03 - - - - 5/15/00

32. HOLMAN GROUP INC.(MPT) P 157 144 5/2/00 - $0.02 - - - - 5/15/00

33. KELLER, KENNETH HOWARD P 783 144 5/2/00 - $0.08 - - - - 5/17/00

34. LARKIN, C.RAYMOND JR P 157 144 5/2/00 - $0.02 - - - - 5/19/00

35. MERESMAN, STANLEY J. P 313 144 5/2/00 - $0.03 - - - - 5/15/00

36. SETTLE, DANA R. P 424 144 5/2/00 - $0.05 - - - - 5/17/00

37. STOCKTON, JOHN P 2,121 144 5/2/00 - $0.22 - - - - 5/19/00

38. CASEBOLT, BRETT D. VP - 3 3/2/00 - - 197,500 D - - 5/10/00

39. CASEBOLT, BRETT D. VP - 3 3/2/00 - - 197,500 D - - 5/11/00

40. KINARD, W. BRIAN VP - 3 3/2/00 - - 151,000 D - - 5/10/00

41. KINARD, W. BRIAN VP - 3 3/2/00 - - 151,000 D - - 5/11/00