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To: Douglas Nordgren who wrote (27050)5/19/2000 8:57:00 AM
From: KJ. Moy  Respond to of 29386
 
Douglas,

<<EMC ramrodding the Fibre Alliance is all about having MIB compliant devices to sell software for. The more the merrier. And if all the devices comply (i.e. adopt the standard), continued market dominance is sustainable.>>

EMC's initiative on the Fibre Alliance is commendable. I would imagine the Alliance have defined all possible conditions that could happen in a FC/SAN environment and the appropriate 'MIBs' to represent these conditions. It is the standardization of these MIB values that is vital to the next level, which is software development. Software vendors can write programs to monitor or update these MIBs, and take appropriate actions since now the values of these MIBs from different hardware vendors are supposedly the same. Conditions such as one of disk controllers are down and required to be taken out of the network, etc. Therefore it does not make sense for a 'Brocade' to have a different MIB value to represent a condition. They will be working by themselves. I bring this up because someone have suggested that Brocade can force a standard on something like this simply because they currently have a bigger market share.

KJ



To: Douglas Nordgren who wrote (27050)5/19/2000 10:07:00 AM
From: Eleder2020  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 29386
 
>>I think your emphatic CAPS are urging us on a "hunt.<<

Douglas -Absolutely- Hunt on

And your post was great. It really hit the core of alot of what the software discussion was about on the few panels I saw

It was cited a few times that a good deal of Cisco's success, was the rapid and successful implementation of their software into their networks.

It seems that Brocade writes alot of software and an OS for Compaq that got them a jump start with vendors who would deploy quickly for smaller SANs and got them to market and rapid mindshare. In a sense they build the SANs for CPQ and Dell. They didn't wait to be a piece of a SUN or EMC solution.
So maybe it is possible that SUN and EMC disliked the Brocade strategy of writing proprietary software that competes with theirs alot more then they actually disliked the Brocade switch.
So maybe Brocade really did try to force the standard and try to dictate terms to SUN and EMC.
They keep comparing themselves to Cisco.

Just a thought- Ed