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To: Ken Adams who wrote (7266)	5/19/2000 7:03:00 PM
From: jesso	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39683

I'll take the 2nd set of 15, if you don't mind a newcomer jumping in. I believe I know what we're looking for, as I trade a somewhat similar system although I'm looking to improve upon it. If it would be more appropriate for me to "lurk" for awhile that's perfectly understandable, but I'll be going through your list regardless so I figured I could report back on the second set of 15 for everyone.

To: Ken Adams who wrote (7266)	5/19/2000 8:17:00 PM
From: CatLady	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 39683

For anyone using QCharts, take a look at Qformula for doing alerts on technical indicators. You will have to register with egroups and sign up for the qtools list to use this link. This is freeware by Matt Gunderson egroups.com It's not perfect, but the price is right. :-) Matt's next app for qfeed will be Ravenquote, which is in beta test now. ravenquote.com ( I think that's the right URL, but I can't get to the site right now ) There's a Qcharts list on egroups too, for anyone interested.

To: Ken Adams who wrote (7266)	5/19/2000 10:24:00 PM
From: Dr. Stoxx	Respond to of 39683

Ken, You are da' man! Great list. I'm concerned that our BIG money winner, DIGL, did not appear. A volume problem, do you think? I wonder... I'll take a look at as many as I can, starting from the end of the list. Perhaps then, I can meet the others midway. TC.

To: Ken Adams who wrote (7266)	5/19/2000 10:59:00 PM
From: Dr. Stoxx	Respond to of 39683

Ken, I'm giving the two thumbs up to SNDK...on your list, and one I traded with this system two years ago profitably. It has recently come into our price range after a huge runup. Here is a sample of things to come: 207.61.23.98 TC

To: Ken Adams who wrote (7266)	5/19/2000 11:18:00 PM
From: Dr. Stoxx	Respond to of 39683

Ken, the bottom 16: YHOO: yes, but only for large accounts (needs $25k margined to trade, but makes some beautiful moves) XLA: chart N/A on timely VTSS: price is right, but we can do better VRTS: no VRSN: no VRIO: same as XLA VIGN: same as XLA VERT: same as XLA UCOMA: same as XLA TRMB: not bad for a sub-40 stock...has real potential TQNT: no TLGD: no TERN: same as XLA TECD: no SNDK: big enthusiastic thumbs up! TC

To: Ken Adams who wrote (7266)	5/19/2000 11:34:00 PM
From: CatLady	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39683

I'm trying to do some backtesting in Metastock on your list of stocks. NSOL is the best so far. 60 minute chart, data from 2/8 to today. System Report - Moving Average Xover SMA NSOL Results Total net profit 50732.36 Open position val 3714.19 Percent gain/loss 507.32 Annual percent ga 1815.42 Initial investmen10000.00 Interest earned 0.00 Current position Short Date position ent/18/2000 2:30:000 Buy/Hold profit 485.21 Days in test 102 Buy/Hold pct gain 4.85 Annual B/H pct ga 17.36 Total closed trad 53 Commissions paid 5350.00 Avg profit per tr 887.14 Avg Win/Avg Loss 3.13 Total long trades 27 Total short trade 26 Winning long trad 14 Winning short tra 14 Total winning tra 28 Total losing trad 25 Amount of winning65742.52 Amount of losing 18724.36 Average win 2347.95 Average loss -748.97 Largest win 8053.48 Largest loss -4799.37 Average length of 14.21 Average length of 5.48 Longest winning t 43 Longest losing tr 13 Most consecutive 6 Most consecutive 5 Total bars out 8 Average length ou 8.00 Longest out perio 8 System close draw-1275.12 Profit/Loss index 73.04 System open drawd-1337.91 Reward/Risk index 97.43 Max open trade dr-4749.37 Buy/Hold index 11121.14 System Report - Moving Average Xover SMA System Parameters System notes Buys/sells when a moving average of periods goes above/below a moving "OPT2" periods. Select "Optimize" periods in the moving averages. Enter long Mov(C,opt1,S) >= Mov(C,opt2,S) Close long Mov(C,opt1,S) < Mov(C,opt2,S) Enter short Mov(C,opt1,S) <= Mov(C,opt2,S) Close short Mov(C,opt1,S) > Mov(C,opt2,S) OPT1 Shorter-term mov. average Range: From 5 to 15 by 5 Current value: 5 OPT2 Longer-term mov. average Range: From 8 to 32 by 4 Current value: 8 Initial equity 10000 Positions Long and short Entry trade priClose Entry trade del0 Exit trade pricClose Exit trade dela0 Entry commissio50 points Exit commission50 points Interest rate 0% Margin req. 100% System Report - Moving Average Xover SMA NSOL Trades Enter Exit Profit MAE Reason For --- Out 2/8/2000 3:30:000 2/9/2000 3:30:000 0.00 0.00 Enter long si 1 Long 2/9/2000 3:30:000 /11/2000 5:30:000 1154.18 6.56 Enter short s 2 Short /11/2000 5:30:000 /14/2000 2:30:000 -290.70 7.97 Enter long si 3 Long /14/2000 2:30:000 /15/2000 9:30:000 -91.20 3.63 Enter short s 4 Short /15/2000 9:30:000 /16/2000 0:30:000 266.13 0.44 Enter long si 5 Long /16/2000 0:30:000 /16/2000 3:30:000 -249.15 2.69 Enter short s 6 Short /16/2000 3:30:000 /17/2000 0:30:000 -174.46 6.52 Enter long si 7 Long /17/2000 0:30:000 /17/2000 3:30:000 -100.00 1.31 Enter short s 8 Short /17/2000 3:30:000 /18/2000 9:30:000 -303.97 4.44 Enter long si 9 Long /18/2000 9:30:000 /18/2000 5:30:000 -404.06 7.69 Enter short s 10 Short /18/2000 5:30:000 /23/2000 0:30:000 349.38 0.00 Enter long si 11 Long /23/2000 0:30:000 /25/2000 3:30:000 1330.93 0.06 Enter short s 12 Short /25/2000 3:30:000 /29/2000 9:30:000 -213.62 3.27 Enter long si 13 Long /29/2000 9:30:000 3/1/2000 4:30:000 44.28 4.94 Enter short s 14 Short 3/1/2000 4:30:000 3/2/2000 9:30:000 -581.05 8.28 Enter long si 15 Long 3/2/2000 9:30:000 3/2/2000 5:30:000 -695.24 10.88 Enter short s 16 Short 3/2/2000 5:30:000 3/3/2000 1:30:000 -989.86 15.50 Enter long si 17 Long 3/3/2000 1:30:000 3/8/2000 9:30:000 804.03 3.63 Enter short s 18 Short 3/8/2000 9:30:000 3/8/2000 4:30:000 1130.74 22.25 Enter long si 19 Long 3/8/2000 4:30:000 /10/2000 3:30:000 1377.58 4.41 Enter short s 20 Short /10/2000 3:30:000 /13/2000 5:30:000 391.48 7.63 Enter long si 21 Long /13/2000 5:30:000 /14/2000 9:30:000 158.75 0.00 Enter short s 22 Short /14/2000 9:30:000 /16/2000 4:30:000 522.32 1.28 Enter long si 23 Long /16/2000 4:30:000 /17/2000 3:30:000 -460.60 15.78 Enter short s 24 Short /17/2000 3:30:000 /17/2000 5:30:000 -154.50 1.53 Enter long si 25 Long /17/2000 5:30:000 /20/2000 0:30:000 -813.92 16.28 Enter short s 26 Short /20/2000 0:30:000 /21/2000 5:30:000 14.59 10.72 Enter long si 27 Long /21/2000 5:30:000 /22/2000 5:30:000 474.71 0.69 Enter short s 28 Short /22/2000 5:30:000 /24/2000 9:30:000 348.22 0.00 Enter long si 29 Long /24/2000 9:30:000 /27/2000 9:30:000 391.27 5.38 Enter short s 30 Short /27/2000 9:30:000 /27/2000 1:30:000 64.38 1.00 Enter long si 31 Long /27/2000 1:30:000 /27/2000 5:30:000 -293.70 5.25 Enter short s 32 Short /27/2000 5:30:000 4/4/2000 5:30:000 4080.31 7.00 Enter long si 33 Long 4/4/2000 5:30:000 /10/2000 3:30:000 5550.63 5.81 Enter short s 34 Short /10/2000 3:30:000 /11/2000 5:30:000 2007.71 1.00 Enter long si 35 Long /11/2000 5:30:000 /12/2000 0:30:000 -967.17 11.75 Enter short s 36 Short /12/2000 0:30:000 /17/2000 3:30:000 5801.01 3.13 Enter long si 37 Long /17/2000 3:30:000 /19/2000 3:30:000 8053.48 0.25 Enter short s 38 Short /19/2000 3:30:000 /25/2000 0:30:000 5978.51 0.31 Enter long si 39 Long /25/2000 0:30:000 /26/2000 5:30:000 -994.23 3.44 Enter short s 40 Short /26/2000 5:30:000 /27/2000 1:30:000 4799.37 13.75 Enter long si 41 Long /27/2000 1:30:000 5/1/2000 5:30:000 5252.12 4.31 Enter short s 42 Short 5/1/2000 5:30:000 5/4/2000 0:30:000 4537.39 4.44 Enter long si 43 Long 5/4/2000 0:30:000 5/8/2000 1:30:000 4430.32 2.38 Enter short s 44 Short 5/8/2000 1:30:000 /10/2000 9:30:000 5299.74 1.69 Enter long si 45 Long /10/2000 9:30:000 /10/2000 1:30:000 538.67 3.00 Enter short s 46 Short /10/2000 1:30:000 /11/2000 9:30:000 431.27 6.50 Enter long si 47 Long /11/2000 9:30:000 /11/2000 1:30:000 -640.58 2.25 Enter short s 48 Short /11/2000 1:30:000 /12/2000 1:30:000 -450.74 5.38 Enter long si 49 Long /12/2000 1:30:000 /12/2000 5:30:000 1509.34 4.81 Enter short s 50 Short /12/2000 5:30:000 /15/2000 3:30:000 -816.62 4.38 Enter long si 51 Long /15/2000 3:30:000 /17/2000 9:30:000 6089.12 0.00 Enter short s 52 Short /17/2000 9:30:000 /18/2000 9:30:000 -550.52 5.06 Enter long si 53 Long /18/2000 9:30:000 /18/2000 2:30:000 1049.03 2.34 Enter short s 54 Open Short /18/2000 2:30:000 /19/2000 5:30:000 3714.20 1.81

To: Ken Adams who wrote (7266)	5/20/2000 11:10:00 AM
From: Ken Adams	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39683

Wow! What a response! We got "volunteers" to pretty much cover the list at least once. TC has put his blessing on a couple. I guess we should compile that list as it grows. I'll start it on another note and we'll build from there. From my group of 15, I threw out about 2/3 of them for various reasons. Here are my semi-finalists. I'd like others to xray these and then we'll pick what's left for the list: AMKR, AWRE, BBRC, BEAS, CEPH & BVSN. I really included BVSN here out of sentimentality. It's mostly flat for the past few weeks and should be forgotten unless it returns to its volatile ways. How are the rest of you doing? Ken

To: Ken Adams who wrote (7266)	5/20/2000 3:46:00 PM
From: Dr. Stoxx	Respond to of 39683

Found it: post #7266 copied here: ... and here's the list. 88 in all, I believe. ALKS ,ALKERMES INC COM ALTR ,ALTERA CORP COM AMCC ,APPLIED MICRO CIRCUITS CORP CDT-COM AMD ,ADVANCED MICRO DEVICES INC COM AMKR ,AMKOR TECHNOLOGY INC COM AMZN ,AMAZON COM INC COM ANCR ,ANCOR COMMUNICATIONS INC COM APEX ,APEX INC COM ATML ,ATMEL CORP COM AWRE ,AWARE INC MASS COM BBRC ,BURR BROWN CORP COM BEAS ,BEA SYS INC COM BRCM ,BROADCOM CORP COM BVSN ,BROADVISION INC COM CEPH ,CEPHALON INC COM CHIR ,CHIRON CORP COM CIEN ,CIENA CORP COM CMGI ,CMGI INC COM CMOS ,CREDENCE SYS CORP COM CNET ,CNET NETWORKS INC COM CTXS ,CITRIX SYS INC COM DCLK ,DOUBLECLICK INC COM DISH ,ECHOSTAR COMMUN CORP NEW CL A EBAY ,EBAY INC COM ELON ,ECHELON CORP COM EMLX ,EMULEX CORP COM NEW ENTU ,ENTRUST TECHNOLOGIES INC COM ERTS ,ELECTRONIC ARTS INC COM ETEK ,E-TEK DYNAMICS INC COM EXDS ,EXODUS COMMUNICATIONS INC COM FLEX ,FLEXTRONICS INTL LTD ORD GMST ,GEMSTAR INTERNATIONL GRP LTD ORD HGSI ,HUMAN GENOME SCIENCES INC COM HLIT ,HARMONIC INC COM ICIX ,INTERMEDIA COMMUNICATION FLA COM IDPH ,IDEC PHARMACEUTICALS CORP COM IDTI ,INTEGRATED DEVICE TECH INC COM IMNX ,IMMUNEX CORP NEW COM INCY ,INCYTE PHARMACEUTICALS INC COM INKT ,INKTOMI CORP COM INSP ,INFOSPACE INC COM ITWO ,I2 TECHNOLOGIES INC COM JDSU ,JDS UNIPHASE CORP COM KLAC ,KLA-TENCOR CORP COM KLIC ,KULICKE & SOFFA INDS INC COM LCOS ,LYCOS INC COM LRCX ,LAM RESH CORP COM LSCC ,LATTICE SEMICONDUCTOR CORP COM MCHP ,MICROCHIP TECHNOLOGY INC COM MEDI ,MEDIMMUNE INC COM MFNX ,METROMEDIA FIBER NETWORK INC CL A MLNM ,MILLENNIUM PHARMACTCLS INC COM MRVC ,MRV COMMUNICATIONS INC COM MXIM ,MAXIM INTEGRATED PRODS INC COM NITE ,KNIGHT/TRIMARK GROUP INC NEW CL A NSOL ,NETWORK SOLUTIONS INC DEL COM NTPA ,NETOPIA INC COM NVDA ,NVIDIA CORP COM NVLS ,NOVELLUS SYS INC COM NXLK ,NEXTLINK COMMUNICATIONS INC CL A PAR $0.02 NXTL ,NEXTEL COMMUNICATIONS INC CL A PDLI ,PROTEIN DESIGN LABS INC COM PMCS ,PMC-SIERRA INC COM PWAV ,POWERWAVE TECHNOLOGIES INC COM QLGC ,QLOGIC CORP COM RFMD ,RF MICRO DEVICES INC COM RMBS ,RAMBUS INC DEL COM RNWK ,REALNETWORKS INC COM SAWS ,SAWTEK INC COM SDLI ,SDL INC COM SEBL ,SIEBEL SYS INC COM SIVB ,SILICON VY BANCSHARES COM SNDK ,SANDISK CORP COM SONE ,S1 CORP COM TECD ,TECH DATA CORP COM TERN ,TERAYON COMMUNICATION SYS COM TLGD ,TOLLGRADE COMMUNICATIONS INC COM TQNT ,TRIQUINT SEMICONDUCTOR INC COM TRMB ,TRIMBLE NAV LTD COM UCOMA ,UNITEDGLOBALCOM CL A VERT ,VERTICALNET INC OC-COM VIGN ,VIGNETTE CORP COM VRIO ,VERIO INC COM VRSN ,VERISIGN INC COM VRTS ,VERITAS SOFTWARE CO COM VTSS ,VITESSE SEMICONDUCTOR CORP COM XLA ,XCELERA COM INC COM YHOO ,YAHOO INC COM Remember, we're looking for stuff that moves 20% or more in a week, or so. The more the better, usually. I forgot to mention in the previous post that I set a minimum ADV of 500K, so these are heavily traded.