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To: Gopher Broke who wrote (111665)5/20/2000 9:18:00 AM
From: porn_start878  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572873
 
Gopher Broke
<I was just browsing the AMD presentation at the DDR conference and in the chipset section they place a lot of emphasis on the matching of bus speeds either side of the northbridge giving "significant benefits". >

It remind me a big question my dad was bothered 3 or 4 mounts ago. It was about PC133 and the 200 bus EV6. He was talking about "phase djetting" or something like that. Does the KX133 buffer ahead the next word coming from memory to reduce phase discrepancy between CPU and PC133? If so, it will induce latency.

To explain it more in detail:

Let T be the time when the first word arrived at the CPU and tic200 be the time between each tic of the clock on the EV6 bus while tic133 is for the clocking of the PC133.

At T+tic200 the CPU is ready for the next word but the PC133 is not ready before T+tic133 so the CPU will have to wait on the next tic200 before reading the next word.

This will result in reading succeeding word every 2 tic200 giving a throughput equal of the PC100 throughput.

Since Bench show a better result for PC133 memory to CPU transfer, there must be a tricky way of avoiding this "phase djeter". Can anybody could give a clue?

max



To: Gopher Broke who wrote (111665)5/20/2000 4:01:00 PM
From: Charles R  Respond to of 1572873
 
Gopher Broke,

<Any hardware experts out there who can comment on the effect this bus synchronization through the northbridge might have on memory latency?>

Depending on the implementation it could save at least a clock or two in the chipset. Since these are 100 or 133 MHz clocks, the savings is significant in terms of CPU clock cycles.

May be someone with a more firsthand knowledge of AMD and VIA chipsets can comeup with a precise number.

Chuck