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Politics : About that Cuban boy, Elian -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Eashoa' M'sheekha who wrote (5914)	5/21/2000 12:54:00 PM
From: marcos	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9127

Thinking again ehhhh? .. Don't deny it, ya little secular-humanist hoodlums - humanities-interactive.org "It is a story of love," he told me. "Love is more important than politics." thedagger.com Yes, that wsws.org site does bring a lot of detail, and i don't know of a case in which they've been in error on that detail [though one should stay open to the possibility, imho] ... and it is quite interesting, i've enjoyed it since shortly after getting on the net ... ... but - Where i part company with them is where they go with their detail, what conclusions they draw ... such conclusions being somewhat predictable always -g- ... they're locked in a black 'n white world where isms rule, just like the whacko rightwing rags are .... and in this case, they are partly right - Some economic benefit to cubanos [and to not a few americans as well] would ensue from a cessation of hostilities by the US, and those benefits would likely increase as time went on. Still, the major value of the move is symbolic, imho ... politics is all about symbols, especially among latinos ... the image of 800-pound Uncle Sam with his boot on the neck of his 98-pound neighbour does not help the US case ... it does reinforce Castro's cubanidad platform, his well-earned hold on the concept of Independencia. Added to which - The absurdity inherent in the self-proclaimed Cradle of Liberty denying its citizens the right to travel as they please ... it's like 'Do as i say, not as i do' ... a truly free nation would have the strength to rise above such petty behaviour. I don't know if Cuba has as prevalent a tradition of political caricaturism [now there's another ism i like, lol] as does M‚xico ... but if they do, you just know that when that embargo finally comes down, they'll lose a fine source of material -g-

To: Eashoa' M'sheekha who wrote (5914)	5/21/2000 1:13:00 PM
From: marcos	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 9127

[clop clop] ARTHUR: Old woman! DENNIS: Man! ARTHUR: Man, sorry. What knight live in that castle over there? DENNIS: I'm thirty-seven. ARTHUR: What? DENNIS: I'm thirty-seven -- I'm not old! ARTHUR: Well, I can't just call you `Man'. DENNIS: Well, you could say `Dennis'. ARTHUR: Well, I didn't know you were called `Dennis.' DENNIS: Well, you didn't bother to find out, did you? ARTHUR: I did say sorry about the `old woman,' but from the behind you looked-- DENNIS: What I object to is you automatically treat me like an inferior! ARTHUR: Well, I AM king... DENNIS: Oh king, eh, very nice. An' how'd you get that, eh? By exploitin' the workers -- by 'angin' on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the economic an' social differences in our society! If there's ever going to be any progress-- WOMAN: Dennis, there's some lovely filth down here. Oh --how d'you do? ARTHUR: How do you do, good lady. I am Arthur, King of the Britons. Who's castle is that? WOMAN: King of the who? ARTHUR: The Britons. WOMAN: Who are the Britons? ARTHUR: Well, we all are. we're all Britons and I am your king. WOMAN: I didn't know we had a king. I thought we were an autonomous collective. DENNIS: You're fooling yourself. We're living in a dictatorship. A self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working classes-- WOMAN: Oh there you go, bringing class into it again. DENNIS: That's what it's all about if only people would-- ARTHUR: Please, please good people. I am in haste. Who lives in that castle? WOMAN: No one live there. ARTHUR: Then who is your lord? WOMAN: We don't have a lord. ARTHUR: What? DENNIS: I told you. We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week. ARTHUR: Yes. DENNIS: But all the decision of that officer have to be ratified at a special biweekly meeting. ARTHUR: Yes, I see. DENNIS: By a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs,-- ARTHUR: Be quiet! DENNIS: --but by a two-thirds majority in the case of more-- ARTHUR: Be quiet! I order you to be quiet! WOMAN: Order, eh -- who does he think he is? ARTHUR: I am your king! WOMAN: Well, I didn't vote for you. ARTHUR: You don't vote for kings. WOMAN: Well, 'ow did you become king then? ARTHUR: The Lady of the Lake, [angels sing] her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water signifying by Divine Providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. [singing stops] That is why I am your king! DENNIS: Listen -- strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony. ARTHUR: Be quiet! DENNIS: Well you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you! ARTHUR: Shut up! DENNIS: I mean, if I went around sayin' I was an emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me they'd put me away! ARTHUR: Shut up! Will you shut up! DENNIS: Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system. ARTHUR: Shut up! DENNIS: Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! HELP! HELP! I'm being repressed! ARTHUR: Bloody peasant! DENNIS: Oh, what a give away. Did you 'ear that, did you 'ear that, eh? That's what I'm on about -- did you see 'im repressing me, you saw it didn't you? hyperreal.org