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To: epicure who wrote (79660)5/23/2000 2:19:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
In the scenario given, I doubt the child would be at a disadvantage. The NT contains the proviso that "them as ain't agin us is fer us", and what child could be effectively agin something as complex as the credo? The kid gets a pass.

Of course, in the popular rendition of heaven and hell, the kid suffered a lot, and that gives him a fat credit balance relative to the repentant adult. Hmph.



To: epicure who wrote (79660)5/23/2000 4:30:00 PM
From: Neocon  Respond to of 108807
 
Just stumbled on this (multi- tasking):
It would depend on who you asked. For example, most Catholics believe in the doctrine of "invincible ignorance", which means that someone who strives to live well who was never in a position to properly receive the Gospel would be saved, so the child might be saved. It is always possible that the torturer could repent and be saved.

On the other: fundamentally, for the creation to have any meaning, the Creator must retreat somewhat. The presumption in Judaism and Christianity both is that the Fall, however conceived, disrupted the universe and made room for perversities that otherwise would never have existed......