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To: ptanner who wrote (112256)	5/23/2000 9:49:00 PM
From: Cirruslvr	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1570344

PT - RE: "Tom's article indicated this is scheduled for beginning of 2001 and for the next PIII generation on 0.13 micron? I didn't think Intel was going to be at 0.13 that soon?" This article ebns.com says mobile Willy made on .13 process will come out one year from now. If you remember, the first .18 processor was Dixon, a mobile PII w/256K L2 cache. It was supposed to be the pilot to test the .18 process. Maybe Intel is doing the same thing with .13 and shrinking Cumine early next year to give the process an early run. But then again, Chuck said he wouldn't be surprised if Intel had .13 Willy out THIS year... I wonder if Intel's .13 will start off with copper, or if the first one will still be aluminum. "And AMD's 0.13 schedule? Will Mustang be on 0.13 at the end of this year?" This is what AMD says about Mustang - "Mustang is planned to be an enhanced version of Thunderbird, featuring a reduced core size, lower power requirements and large, full-speed, on-die L2 cache. Multiple versions of the Mustang core are planned to be targeted at the high-performance server/workstation, value and high-performance desktop, and mobile markets." Supposedly, Mustang will be made on at least a .15 process this year. From a slide in the analyst presentation last year in November, AMD will have some* .13 capacity this year, so maybe it will be .13 instead of .15. This shrink is in line with what makes Mustang different from Thunderbird. AMD added a couple of questions to their FAQ, but we basically knew everything already. At least they aren't trying to hide anything - "Question: For the new AMD Athlon? processor, what solutions will be available to AMD?s distribution and OEM partners? Answer: In the distribution channel, and for Processor in a Box (PIB), AMD plans to offer the new AMD Athlon? processor for Socket A only. Some AMD customers have requested that AMD support the new AMD Athlon processor in both Slot A modules and Socket A PGA packages to facilitate their transition from the Slot A to Socket A infrastructure and quickly bring systems to market. AMD has agreed to support our customers? request to produce the new AMD Athlon (Thunderbird) processor in Slot A modules. Customers choosing to use the new AMD Athlon processor Slot A modules must use motherboards based on the AMD-750? chipset. AMD plans to begin volume shipments of the new AMD Athlon processor with performance-enhancing cache memory in June. This is planned to coincide with VIA Technology?s planned introduction of the KZ133 chipset. Question: What prevents the new AMD Athlon? processor and the VIA KX133 chipset from working together? Answer: The VIA KX133 chipset is designed to work with the current version of the AMD Athlon? processor in the Slot A module. The AMD Athlon processor featuring performance-enhancing cache memory (codenamed ?Thunderbird?) is primarily intended to ship in Socket A motherboards that use the VIA Technology KZ133 chipset." * I found the link on AMD's site that still has the power point presentation available. I thought it was taken down. Here is the link - amd.com