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To: haqihana who wrote (79855)	5/25/2000 2:03:00 AM
From: epicure	Respond to of 108807

>In other words, I ask for a fair shake. ~H~< Let me get this straight. You believe in a religion that requires faith. If one doesn't have that faith one is damned. And you expect other people who do NOT share your faith, people who in fact find your faith repugnant, to give your faith a fair "shake"? In what way do we shake your faith fairly? I've said over and over and over again- I find ALL belief systems suspect. And ALL forms of faith that cause harm are repugnant to me. But you keep talking about unfairness. You believe in a religion that condemns outsiders (i.e. people with beliefs that do not agree with your own) and you think you deserve fairness? I think you've gotten much more fairness than you "deserve" personally. You seem to have a persecution complex- not unknown in people of your religious persuasion. Not saying you DO- just saying you seem that way to me.

To: haqihana who wrote (79855)	5/25/2000 2:37:00 AM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Iam trying to point out a particular bias against the God of Abraham. The Nazis were carrying out the commands of their "diety" Hitler, the Romans worshipped their Caesars, the Mongols their Khans, and the Japanese their Emperor, god of the sun. I see no bias. If the Deities of the Nazis, the Romans, the Khans, or the Japanese, or their followers, were trying to convert us to those paths today, it would be necessary to look at those Deities and their followers, and to evaluate the actions of those who believed in those deities. Since these religions no longer compete for our loyalty, we may legitimately consider them dead issues. I see no bias. I think anybody who popped up here claiming that they and their religion were the sole possessors of revealed truth, and that God would punish any who did not agree with them, would get the same treatment. Exclusivist religion is, unfortunately, a difficult and abrasive philosophy to hold, which is why it is best held very gently.

To: haqihana who wrote (79855)	5/25/2000 10:01:00 AM
From: CharleyMike	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

haqihana, If I may~ ~ LOL and even if I may not ~~~ Since this is a subject in which I have some personal experience, some extreme bias, and a great dislike.... I've bitten my tongue 'til it bleeds (like some hearts) but want to say: the perceived bias you folks feel is probably a bit paranoidal because your belief (religion, if you will) sets itself up as the ONLY true religion and denigrates the possibility that any other could be correct. As a matter of faith, you can do this if you like ~ but you can't persuade those of other more tolerant belief to accept the idea that you're right and we're all wrong. Especially in view of severe division/dissension in your own ranks. Consequently your beliefs are rejected and ridiculed more often than not by people who think for themselves.