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To: Ruffian who wrote (4999)	5/25/2000 2:35:00 PM
From: Mika Kukkanen	Respond to of 34857

Michael: GPRS no, but maybe EDGE. I can not see anyone going to EDGE unless they are an incumbent who did not get a license (or AT&T of course!). Going to EDGE maybe something even after UMTS/DS, as they have the already have the network, but that is a long shot. Re-use of existing spectrum is something I brought up the other day on the Qcom thread and I believe Chaz delved into it a little. GPRS still provides a bridge or more like a stepping stone for operators. No matter what 3G flavour, they need to get into packet now. For the vast majority of operators, GPRS is the most cost effective way of doing so. I honestly do not belive the IPR issue is delaying roll-out of networks (I didn't for GSM, shame on me for opening the door to IDC spamming). Believe the real issue is actually the manufacturing, although network planning take some time to accomplish even before that. Gotta go, as it is 19:35 and am still in the office. See ya. M

To: Ruffian who wrote (4999)	5/25/2000 3:32:00 PM
From: gdichaz	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 34857

Ruffian: Just saw Mika's note to you. I find myself in agreement with him that GPRS will happen (is happening) on GSM - the open question is with EDGE on GSM. Note that Nokia says in its releases that its new equipment and software will enable WCDMA from GSM/GPRS (which permits packet switching). EDGE seems to be missing. But for TDMA, EDGE is included (and seems to be the end of the line). We will see how all this works out. But so far, GPRS seems to be the same sort of "no brainer" for GSM operators as 1XRTT or 1xMC is for CDMAOne operators. As I have suggested before, the interesting question is, taking that as a given, then what? Again, the only way I can see to deal logically with all the alphabet soup and claims and counterclaims is to at least be clear whether the technology under discussion is for use on current spectrum or requires new spectrum. It is abundantly clear that WCDMA requires new spectrum while CDMA2000 does not (but of course may be used on it as is proposed in Japan). Cheers. Chaz