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To: SirRealist who wrote (422)	5/26/2000 1:10:00 PM
From: vagabond	Respond to of 24256

Very nicely said, Kevin. Thanks... eom

To: SirRealist who wrote (422)	5/26/2000 1:28:00 PM
From: Frederick Langford	Respond to of 24256

Kevin, Best post on SI! Everyone should read and digest it. Fred

To: SirRealist who wrote (422)	5/26/2000 1:41:00 PM
From: yossarian67	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 24256

Great post Kev....Good group here. Have a good weekend all.

To: SirRealist who wrote (422)	5/26/2000 5:37:00 PM
From: Carolyn	Respond to of 24256

Kevin, wonderful post. Thank you.

To: SirRealist who wrote (422)	5/26/2000 6:05:00 PM
From: bob	Respond to of 24256

Thanks!

To: SirRealist who wrote (422)	5/26/2000 6:21:00 PM
From: Carolyn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 24256

JXM suggested I post it here: Subject 30651 so I did.

To: SirRealist who wrote (422)	5/26/2000 6:23:00 PM
From: Lee	Respond to of 24256

Thanks for remembering what's important. And a grateful 'Thank You' to all vets past and present. Cheers, Lee

To: SirRealist who wrote (422)	5/26/2000 6:50:00 PM
From: $Mogul	Respond to of 24256

Excellent post, yes my Grandfather was the only survivor from his US Army platoon out of 20 in WWII and has most recently passed a few monthes ago.... after almost 60 years he still kept pictures and letters and some badges, and I was lucky enough to reminess with him about his stories and try to fathom what kind of world he was living in and what his state of mind was and more importantly why he was there. Actully, he was my age now, only a young man, fighting for his life and yours. Makes me think if I was in his shoes today..would i be able to do it? Don't think many of today's posh soceity could even releate to war.... and I can't really either unless I really think hard, gosh that scene from Saving Private Ryan on the Beach of Normady comes to mind..... I will remember all the stories and remember how important our Americn soliders are to our glorious freedom that we enjoy here in the United States of America. Truly a weekend that we all must think about, it really is so important...you are not a true american, regardless of your historical heritage, unless you understand this rememberance and all the lives that were lost so you could be free in the United States of America today, at this very moment, and live a life untold prosperity. A freedom that is given to you, where most countries citizens do not benefit from that choice. Some make it mandatory that you be enrolled in the national military, but we have that choice, and I can only hope for our future that we will continue to have that choice and have our hard fought freedom thanks to all our fathers and grandfathers and in somecases mothers and grandmothers that have risked there lives for all of ours today. So be aware and be gratefull, and have a nice Holiday all...you deserve it...... and most of all, thank you Grandad Sonny and to all other US soilders for making me so aware, you are greatly missed. Irv Nathan Kaufman 1916-1999

To: SirRealist who wrote (422)	5/26/2000 7:04:00 PM
From: HandsOn	Respond to of 24256

Wow Kevin, best post I have ever read on SI or anywhere else for that matter. My Dad fought in WWII in China, Burma India and Northern Africa against Rommel and His forces. My Dad got malaria and almost died over there. Now He has terminal lung cancer, found out about three weeks ago. His first reaction when I called was how was I doing, said He will fight it with prayer and radiation because He wants to come down here and see His grandson again. Your post really hit home here, thanks if it is ok I am going to print it out and give Him a copy. Well I hear my son coming back from His bike ride with His mom, ttyl.

To: SirRealist who wrote (422)	5/26/2000 7:17:00 PM
From: MrLucky	Respond to of 24256

Nicely put. Happy Memorial Day to everyone!

To: SirRealist who wrote (422)	5/26/2000 10:38:00 PM
From: Pareto	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 24256

"here's what to remember" Kevin, thanks for the very good post. Be sure, millions of people have been tremendously grateful to the people who came to the rescue when arms and hate governed in Europe. My parents where born in 1935 in Holland. Occupied May 10, 1940. Back to freedom May 5, 1945. They where still children when the war ended. Their generation has rebuild Holland. Not only focusing on buildings and roads. But on creating a society, a culture and a system of education that values people. Tolerance. Understanding differences. The welfare state was designed and constructed by the people who during the war had come very close. Were part of resistance movements. Had come to understand the importance of sharing. As opposed to taking. Their generation had bad feelings about the Germans. The Germans themselves, in the first decades after the war, were not able to talk openly about their role and responsibility. Still, my parents together with so many other Dutch people went again and again to Germany for holidays. During spring holidays, Germans flocked the Dutch beaches. Touring the tulip region. I would say that the most important lesson learned after the war is that you should not blame a country and its people as a whole. You should not blame one man. You should not project the full blame on one group. The Germans are no people different from you and me. They are really nice man and women. Hitler was crazy, but he was one man. The Nazis, yes they did most of the atrocities. Blaming a group or one man is the easy road. More difficult is trying to understand how these groups were formed out of people like you and me. How they started to apply very efficient methods not for the benefit of, but for killing people. If you try to understand the roots, you encounter surprises. You'll find that in your own environment, similar roots are alive. Kevin, in the first post to this thread, you refer to companies polluting. Producing arms. Etc. What to think of tobacco companies focusing on new markets. I live in Chile and American-Britisch companies now are trying to get as many teenagers to the smoking habit. Fashion shows in discos where the models walk on the catway with a cigarette. A free box of 20 to all attending. Ads everywhere. This is today. Making money and getting rich by killing people. Or selling videogames were killing is a game. Communication and understanding are keys to bridge differences between classes and races. But not enough. We need politicians who have the guts to make values part of the agenda. We need people that make politics part of their life. If we are able to distinguish good and bad in a more profound way, we are able to blame more selective. And to thank more selective. So, no thanks to all Americans. But thanks to all people that took part in the battles or had their share back home. Thanks to the people who took the decisions. Thanks to the people who today avoid roots of hate to become real. As for the stockmarket, reduce risks. Too much greed is not good. It makes you thinking of money all day. Kevin, have a good memorial weekend and thanks for reminding me. Regards, Pareto

To: SirRealist who wrote (422)	5/27/2000 9:43:00 AM
From: swisstrader	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 24256

Kevin...most here said it all so well...I'll just add one or two small bits from my perspective...anyone who thinks they don't have it good in the US ought to try living outside this terrific country for a few years...most Americans are jaded beyond all belief and all or most of the freedoms and opportunities they enjoy are complements of veterans of years past...never thought I was a "love it or leave it" type, but living in either Europe or the Far East gives one a much deeper appreciation, and most there would give their left arm to trade places with most of us. I know too well the atrocities of war vis-a-vis my father and my father's father escape from Nazi Germany and the many who helped my many relatives (some of which were not so fortunate) get through German borders and on to Ellis Island....my father has told me his story only 100 times and as we both age, I ask him for more and more details and have a greater appreciation for him as a man and those who fought the good fight. Just as an aside, let us not forget those who fought in Vietnam...seems as if those veterans got the short end of the stick and deserve accolades for doing what they did. On a final note, folks should ALWAYS remember that this is ONLY money...just paper...just a game...what REALLY matters is what Mogul said about his grandfather, what REALLY matters is enjoying one's life and living a life that is full of integrity, honor and truth, what REALLY matters is having the knowledge that money pales in comparison to having a first child, a wife who loves you, tight family ties, friends who support you and living life to its fullest...from this viewpoint, the markets and all its pain and glory are relatively meaningless.