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Politics : About that Cuban boy, Elian -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: greenspirit who wrote (6487)	5/28/2000 3:11:00 AM
From: chalu2	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 9127

>>Going on the internet (if one had the capability) is probably met with a death penalty in Cuba. How sad for their people to be controlled by an insecure tyrant for so long.<< Without getting into the "who loves/hates Castro" debate again, Cuba actually has entered the Internet age, and using the Internet does not result in the "death penalty." Cuba has a portal about Cuba (it's no AOL, but we're talking Cuba here). It's at: www3.cuba.cu Services, businesses etc. have started to list themselves on the Internet there, too. Not many yet, but they are at: paginasamarillas.cu (that translates to "yellow pages"). Cubans can send free faxes all over the world. They can access this service at: www-fax.cuba.cu In the yellow pages site, there is a frequently asked questions section. One of the sections contains this question and answer: Qu‚ gana mi instituci¢n al formar parte de las P ginas Amarillas de CENIAInternet? Su instituci¢n gana visibilidad al poder ser contactada por los millones de usuarios que hoy forman la red Internet. Translation: Question: What does my company have to gain from a listing in the Internet yellow pages? Answer: Your company gains visibility so that it can do business with the million of users who today are on the world wide web. Sorry, no death penalty for using the Internet in Cuba. It's encouraged, actually, as you can see. You must be mistaking Cuba for staunch U.S. ally Saudi Arabia.

To: greenspirit who wrote (6487)	5/28/2000 8:01:00 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9127

Michael, I've enjoyed our interchanges as well. I hope you stick around for the resolution of the Elian saga. I like this thread, even when it's off topic. There are some interesting people here. Yes, the thread has gotten a little silly at times, but it tends to right itself. Well Karen, that's your opinion and you're free to express it. I have no clue about what opinion you're referencing. My previous post to you had no opinion in it. I went back and reread all my posts to you to be sure; nowhere in any of them did I offer my opinion on Elian. You're right, we do disagree, but you will not find that disagreement in any of my posts to you. My posts to you have all been about the quality of debate on this matter, not the matter itself. I haven't been trying to change your mind about the disposition of Elian, only to help you improve the quality of your arguments. If you had told me to take my gratuitous coaching and shove it, I could understand that. What I can't understand is your framing our discussions as a debate on the issues. I look forward to seeing a logical, rational, coherent argument for keeping Elian here, one that's based solely on facts and reasonable assumptions. When I see it, I will switch into advocacy mode and debate the issues. In the meantime, I pick at some of the more egregious illogic that posters try to pass off as arguments. Again, I hope you stick around or at least check back later after the latest round of dust has settled. Karen