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To: BigBull who wrote (67282)	5/29/2000 4:05:00 PM
From: Razorbak	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 95453

O/T - "Early was late." Elisha Rhodes of the 2nd Rhode Island wrote about Early's attack on Ft. Stevens in the Washington suburbs: "On the parapet I saw President Lincoln ... Mrs. Lincoln and other ladies were sitting in a carriage behind the earthworks. ... as the President and many ladies were looking on, every man tried to do his best ... The Rebels broke and fled ... Early should have attacked early in the morning. Early was late." Elisha noted that when they first arrived in Washington to help repel Early, "many citizens had guns in their hands." (The Civil War, p312.) McCausland reached Urbana where they drove off a Federal cavalry. Charles R. Lowell Jr, 2nd Mass. Cavalry, USA, to Br. Gen. Hardin, regarding the pursuit of the Confederate forces, 12-14 of July, 1864: "... By small parties I had learned that the rebel force did not extend far up the pike. I therefore moved across the north from River Road, and, dismounting three companies, turned the enemy's right flank. We drove them back ... and Lt. Col. Crownshield moved them at same time about one mile up the Rockville pike. A prisoner reports the force on the Rockville pike to be ... McCausland's cavalry brigade, of Fourteenth, Fifteenth, Nineteenth, and Twenty-second Virginia Cavalry. The band was that of the Fourteenth. He knows of no infantry on that road. They have, I presume, a battery, but have only shown one or perhaps two guns." (War, I Vol 37 p250) McCausland moved on to Georgetown. Washington and the nearly completed capitol dome was visible from this location and the capitol's dome sparkled in the sun. McCausland was the only Confederate General to come close enough to clearly view the Federal capitol. Unknown to them, President Lincoln was at Fort Stevens. Lincoln and his wife and Secretary of War Stanton took a carriage out to Fort Stevens and while on the parapet viewing the battle, a minnie' ball ricocheted, wounding the surgeon Crawford in the thigh, not far from the President. For the only time during the Civil War, the President was under direct fire. One view of what happened next was that Federal Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. pulled at Lincoln's sleeve and yelled "get down you damn fool". The President got down. Season Early had now received word that seasoned troops had arrived to defend Washington and Early now thought twice about an assault. Skirmishers were left to cover their withdrawal. 600 Confederate prisoners arrived at Elmira NY from Pt. Lookout, Md., now totaling 1250. inetone.net PS - If you liked Ken Burns' "The Civil War," you'd love the 4-part, video documentary on Yergin's "The Prize." It's a perfect audio-visual complement to the Pulitzer Prize-winning book. Truly awesome, IMO... amazon.com images.amazon.com Ever seen it?

To: BigBull who wrote (67282)	5/29/2000 4:43:00 PM
From: Chas	Respond to of 95453

OT Memorial Day Happy Memorial Day to all. BigBull, I have experienced similar emotions on more than one occasion. The first time was in Europe, at Waterloo, in 1967. The most recent was at the North Carolina Battleship Memorial. Lookout Mountain in Tennessee was another. I have not had the opportunity to visit Gettysburg, but after hearing your description of the place, will surely find time to do so now. Good luck, Chas

To: BigBull who wrote (67282)	5/29/2000 9:22:00 PM
From: Tomas	Respond to of 95453

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To: BigBull who wrote (67282)	5/29/2000 9:44:00 PM
From: Frank	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 95453

Big Bull -as a Pennsylvanian I have felt the same awe you describe at Gettysburg. There may be one even more humbling experience though. My son in law's grandfather was an Army cameraman at Normandy. He passed away recently but left a number of reels of the invasion to the family. Frankly I haven't had the courage to watch them. My uncle was there and would never speak a word about that day-- Frank

To: BigBull who wrote (67282)	5/30/2000 2:01:00 AM
From: Douglas V. Fant	Respond to of 95453

(OT) BigBull and Frank, "Early was late", ha! Top o' the Memorial Day to you too! I've never been to the Great State of South Carolina, but I hear that Charleston is a really beautiful place! I share your respect and reverence for the Battlefield of Gettysburg. I am struck by the tremendous sacrifice that took place- more American KIA's in just three days than the entire Vietnam War ...Say wasn't Gen'l George Patton's Grandfather killed in that campaign by Jubilee Early in September 1864? You'll laugh at this- But my first job out of school was working for the US Department of the Interior. And what they had me do was to review title and correct boundaries on all of the National Military Park Battlefields in Virginia. What a great job for a historian! For seven months I worked Fredericksburg, Bull Runs I and II (slightly different locations), Port Royale, Winchester, Chancellorsville, Wilderness, Spotsylvania Courthouse, Cold Harbor, Mechanicsville, Gainesville, and Seven Pines, walking around the edges of battlefields and hitting the courthouse records. I am not a big believer in spirits being around here in the temporal world..But the one place that really gives me the willies is Spotsvlvania. At least back when I worked it the original Confederate fortifications at the Bloody Angle were still pretty well preserved- and you could walk around in them. The Angle jutted out to within 100 yards of a dense forest from whence Uniion soldiers charged repeatedly, and hand-to-hand combat took place at the Bloody Angle for hours on end. (In fact Bobby Lee was cut off once from his troops in the battle and had to be rescued by a charge "over the top"). Anyway, at least when I worked there one week many years ago, around the Bloody Angle there was not a sign of life- Not a bird, not a cricket,not a grasshopper...Not a sound. Yet if you venture out 100 yards into the forest near the Bloody Angle where the union troops were located, there are all sorts of birds chirping, bugs snakes, etc. But right at the Bloody Angle there is this dead air, very heavy ominous presence- I cannot explain it- But it really gave me the creeps.... One last funny story. Before the 1862 Battle of Seven Pines, General McClellan and his Staff were mounted on their horses and looking down at a river between the opposing lines that they needed to ford to fight. "Mac" as you know was slow moving and indecisive. Well Gen'l "Mac" was wondering out loud how deep the river was when his Cavalry Adjutant Colonel George Armstrong Custer irritated by all of the delays in the campaign, suddenly spurred his horse and rode down the hill into the middle of the river, took off his hat, and turned back and yelled at General McClellan- "General the river is THIS deep". Can't remember the name of the river now, but like a fool when I worked title issues there I had to wade out into the middle of that river at the same spot where Custer had stood with his mount and look back at the hillock where General McClellan had been upon his mount and yelled the same thing that Custer had yelled a couple of times. I wonder if anyone saw me and thought what is this geek doing???, heh-heh.... P.S. BTW Jubilee is buried at Spring Hill Cemetery in Lynchburg, Virginia....."http://www.findagrave.com" Also interesting but poignant, around the edges of these battlefields usually back in the woods are "unofficial" battlefield cemeteries where unknown battlefield dead were buried. They usually look like someone built brick walls around the graveyards circa the 1890's from the bricks and mortar used and their dilapidated condition. But there is often row after row of unknown dead, graves simply marked "5 Union dead" or 3 Confederate dead", etc....