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To: carranza2 who wrote (5097)	5/30/2000 12:27:00 PM
From: tero kuittinen	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 34857

I know, carranza... that's why I asked about Globalstar, China and GPRS opinions. I am asking you to judge any person based on his earlier predictions on specific issues; not on the 1999 share price development of Qualcomm. It's important how the predictions have fared after the reality has intervened. I think you know as well as I do how Dr. J. characterized the future commercial potential of GPRS, Globalstar and IS-95 in China back in 1999. Make your judgement based on how these predictions turned out in reality; not on how they influenced the share price before anyone knew what would happen. That's a track record. The early W-CDMA models aimed at Europe and Asia outside Japan are GSM/W-CDMA dualmode phones. They incorporate GPRS technology. W-CDMA will be used in phones that also function as GSM/GPRS handsets. The Nokia base stations now brought to market have slots for both EDGE and W-CDMA. Nokia is marketing end-to-end solutions from GPRS to W-CDMA to operators - that's the whole selling point. I am not an engineer and I can't tell you "how". What I can tell you that the operators are convinced that the migration works. Nobody is "ditching" current GSM equipment. It will form the underlying backbone of future W-CDMA networks in most markets. That is why operators investing in W-CDMA are also investing heavily on GSM expansion. Look at the order books. Tero

To: carranza2 who wrote (5097)	5/30/2000 5:55:00 PM
From: Raymond	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 34857

carranza! The answer to your question of GSM upgrade to UMTS. The GSM system consists of a number of different nodes. The base stations and the base station controllers(BSC:s) which handles the radio network.They will not be upgraded to UMTS.New nodes will be added for UMTS.WCDMA basestations and radio network controllers(RNC:s).A WCDMA basestation could be combined with a GSM basestation but with different radio boards. The radio network is connected to the core network which consists of many different nodes.Examples are home location registers,mobile switching centers,GPRS nodes,Authentication centers... This nodes will be common for UMTS and GSM.So big parts of the network will be possible to reuse for UMTS.Another thing is that the dual mode WCDMA,GSM mobile will have the same call control and mobility management for the 2 different modes. Another thing often mentioned here is that WCDMA and IS-95 is so similar.They both use CDMA so some basic concepts are the same but I can assure you that layer1(CDMA layer) is very ,very different anyhow.So that another company has done an ASIC for CDMA says nothing about their capabilities to do an ASIC for WCDMA.Especially since some leading people from that company says that their are no standard to make an ASIC after.I mean the standards are not that difficult to find.Just look into the 3GPP specifications.Of course it will come some change requests on the standard but that is always the case in this stage of the standardisation. /R

To: carranza2 who wrote (5097)	5/30/2000 8:38:00 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 34857

Carranza, to upgrade to 3G, think of your television set in your house getting old and crusty, with no Web access and rotten sound. Much 3G will be built from the ground up in new spectrum, so you need land, foundations, joists, studs, rafters and roof with a pole to put the aerial on. To upgrade the tv in the GSM house, you need to remove the old house, but you can keep the foundations, and build a new one from the floor up while changing the power supply from DC to AC. To upgrade the tv in the cdmaOne house, you just plug in the new tv and put up a new antenna. When you've done that, you get a great new system in your MC-CDMA house [cdma2000] but we aren't sure your new DS-CDMA will even work or when it will be ready. Mqurice