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To: tero kuittinen who wrote (5137)	5/31/2000 10:18:00 AM
From: Kent Rattey	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 34857

<GPRS will debut with 40-50 kbps data transfer speed> That's maximum, something most people don't realize. Looks like reality is 13 to 20, and carry a fire extinguisher to boot! Ah come on!<G> Kent

To: tero kuittinen who wrote (5137)	5/31/2000 10:33:00 AM
From: Peter J Hudson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 34857

Tero, I am not annoyed in the least! >>And Peter - I actually had the guts to make the call on China back when the consensus opinion was still solidly behind a nationwide IS-95 build-up. I made the call, I read through all the garbage thrown at me, and I have earned a modest Nordic victory dance. If you can't stomach it, you can skip my posts. Have you nothing to say about the clueless masses of commentators who have been predicting tens of millions of IS-95 subs in China? Aren't they the people you should be annoyed at?<< Remember that the clueless masses were making their predictions on guidance from Unicom and the Chinese government. My point was that the victory dance again appears to be premature. Qualcomm has people on the ground in China helping domestic manufacturers gear up for CDMA. Apparently there is still spectrum allocated for CDMA. I have no problem stomaching your posts. I always enjoy your wit, wisdom, and modest Nordic style. As you well know, you are the reason that most of the Qheads show up here. I am interested in your thoughts on how GSM service providers will manage and price GPRS. Is bandwidth allocation for GPRS dynamic or are the number of bonded timeslots preset? I think sharing the current voice network with GPRS will create some interesting problems. What do you think? Qbubba

To: tero kuittinen who wrote (5137)	5/31/2000 5:12:00 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 34857

Tero, timing is important. While it's true that the current IS-95 systems in China will be upgraded and expanded not with the older technology but 1X and on to HDR etc, that doesn't mean that IS-95 is a failure. It just means that when China was ready, IS-95 was just that = an interim standard. Now the real thing is coming down the pike. Of course China will adopt it [or adapt it if some prefer that word - though it won't really be an adaptation but an adoption]. Q! is adept and will adapt the adopted CDMA to suit the large Chinese market. For example, Mandarin will be more relevant in China than in Eketahuna. Density of people will be greater in almost any street in Beijing than on an American freeway. They'll be moving more slowly too. Maybe ASICs and CDMA will have local content - perhaps so the Chinese authorities can wield that authority over all cellphone users. I'm predicting hundreds of millions of CDMA users in China! There are already a lot there. There is already total coverage of China with CDMA. More is on the way. People are roaming the countryside now, with CDMA handsets, happily chattering where GSM doesn't reach and is just a rumour about rich people in the cities. Globalstar is 73c a minute in China. That's a lot for most Chinese, but there aren't enough handsets for all of them, so they have to be brutally firm with their extorquerationate pricing. Nokia will continue to enjoy wonderful GSM sales in China for a decade or at least half a decade. But the joke will be wearing thin by then and so will GPRS. Customers will want something a bit more functional. Mqurice