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To: Jacques Chitte who wrote (51509)5/31/2000 5:07:00 PM
From: Gauguin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 71178
 
Ooops ~ I see ou called em ".....tough young railroad ties."

I don't know.

I might go see what kind of wood they are tonite.

I doubt there's enough hardwood in america or the world for them to be hardwood.

I have heard of oak ties, but never seen any, to my knowledge.

As ties are made here, they have to be coniferous. Locally.



To: Jacques Chitte who wrote (51509)5/31/2000 5:41:00 PM
From: Gauguin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 71178
 
Here's another thing. I wonder how loose they are? You know, this subject is kind of amazing. I thought I had thought all I had to squeeze out about it ~ but something else just occurred to me.

Okay, we know some are bent.
(That's about ALL we know.)
(Oh, and that the ones on hand here have a wedge point.)

I was thinking, if it were the trains trying to shove the plates and the spikes, on old sections, ~

well, if it's getting bent while driven into the wood it's one thing. One group of concerns.

And if it's getting bent after, it's another.

But "loosening" is involved here.

Take out the natural loosening of weather, for the moment. That being that weather encourages ANY piece of wood to reject an implant, so to speak.

Some old track spikes are loose enough to slide out by pulling at the end. But they may all be relatively loose, with age, or not.

If it's getting bent being driven in, would it STAY tight, stay bent, as the force of the train punches it. I think it would want to wiggle.

They're ALL going to want to wiggle.

If the spike is so tough, why wouldn't it just compress and wiggle the wood in straight form, until it loosened itself a chunnel? And bent ones too?

In other words, I think the forces might have the spike compress the tie wood before they would BEND. And they would just loosen, in whatever shape they started. Metal is a shitload harder than wood.

(Again, basically, I can't see how the wood bends them at all. So many.)

The wood is tougher than I think?

So now I'm back to completely lost.

With five explanations and none.



To: Jacques Chitte who wrote (51509)5/31/2000 7:14:00 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 71178
 
The spikes have a bevel on one side and no bevel on the other. The top of the spikes also have a lip on the bevel side, and I think all the ones I saw curve towards the bevel. So that may be the explanation.