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To: Neocon who wrote (80705)	6/2/2000 7:02:00 PM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

The first time the man dives under the table, you give the benefit of the doubt, and reach no conclusion. When he does it 24 times in the course of a meal - often with no backfire - you start to wonder. And when he jumps on the table and starts farting in your general direction, you pay the bill and leave, a much more civilized course of action than demanding his removal or kicking his butt.

To: Neocon who wrote (80705)	6/3/2000 4:35:00 PM
From: Rick Julian	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

I'd be most interested to see how the man got up. All of us hit the floor at one time or another--how we regain our composure and conduct ourselves tells the rest of the story. JLA isn't standing up yet, so its too early to make a call .

To: Neocon who wrote (80705)	6/3/2000 5:09:00 PM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

This reminds me of a story from one of Corrie Ten Boom's books that is sort of the flip side of your parable. I may get the details wrong as I read it 25 years ago, but the idea I hope will get through. SHe was returning from Europe and when she went through customs- I think it was in Germany- she was asked to open her suitcase and she watched as they searched through her intimate belongings with rudeness and violence; she was treated with suspicion and rudeness. Her initial reaction was to feel insulted and angry. Here she was a good Christian who had suffered through the concentration camps and had forgiven her German captors for the terrible things they did, and preached love for all... then it dawned on her that this official had no clue who she was or what kind of person she was, or what she had suffered in her past losing family in the Holocaust, watching her sister die in a disgusting bathroom in a camp. This man had absolutely no way to know her but by what he experienced in his brief time with her- her words and actions in the present. You are right that none of us knows what is motivating the others here. And this thread is not a place where people feel safe any longer with intimacy. Maybe that's what has changed the most.