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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (53761)	6/5/2000 6:41:00 PM
From: LLCF	Respond to of 116764

<. All that a gold standard would accomplish is to put a further layer under the perception(deception?) of inate value of paper.> Exactly... hey you get it now! In case the government printing press gets going you can cash in your dollars for gold! Since gold cost money [unless you 'decieve' yourself that it does not], the government has to be careful. Simple Now, what about a 'wheat standard' so you can always cash your dollars in for food? Well, these days with the GMO controversy going that would be tough. DAK

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (53761)	6/6/2000 12:24:00 AM
From: d:oug	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116764

Ron, Good News can change Non News into a Bad News. The reverse I will avoid to give an example as it may or not be true, just as a horse has a tail, a tail has a horse we know is false and I forget the math axiom or other that states this, but Hutch for sure could tell us. So Ron, its Dougie Utters More Babble (DUMB) Time. Example: Ham. ============ No Ron, not you trying to be one, but i guess i, but its not the example, i, but that eating type from a pig. Now i know what a ham tastes like, and since most people did not have them there pigies running around where they lived like i did, along with folks on the farm that each year would cure and smoke and prepare them for a later eating. So i know how ham taste and i know that the hams in food markets have the label ham, but to me its like a spongy red colored tastless rubber. So this example is not for i but for those who know only of a ham taste from a can or plastic bag from food store. They will say "I buy the expense good ham" but i know that they are con'ed as what they say is good is still bad, its just not extremely bad. So let them taste a ham made the old fashion way, the right way, the way its done before corporate food stores started selling tons of it. So once they taste the way it really tastes, then poof the non news becomes bad news as they can not go back to the phony ham and accept it like before, like before when it was not a problem, they accepted it "as is." (on topic) Something like this will happen after folks see how paper money retains it value once a gold type backing is reintroducted, they will not want to go back to the old ways. Easy it is to read my post and obtain as a multiple choice not a question but as a result, as follows. 1. I never understood what he was saying. 2. I understood, but now do not. 3. I understand, but wish I did not. 4. I understand not to read his posts. ok Ron lets start over, and yes i realize that i may be here alone, talking to myself as you did an eXit lines above. But incase you is still here hear me out as the first line of this post was as follows. Good News can change Non News into a Bad News. So Ron I will take your views as correct and good and desirable. Ron you state that putting importance and significants and gold bug'ness onto the physical gold stuff is not only wrong but if accomplished would lead to poor results. ok, let it be so and lets identify your worst case example, that being the government of a nation doing that which you say is dangeous folly. Good versus Evil: Good = USA, Evil = China The above in regards to personal freedom in the area of free speech and thoughts. Hong Kong--June 5--China is believed to have been importing gold to increase the national gold reserves because of low prices in the international market... "If the American people realized that their entire gold supply has gone to potential enemy hands and that national security was at risk, I am sure that politicians could not stand the heat that they would receive from their electorate..." So Ron, if China's Central Bank got and gets more of the physical gold as a direct result of what GATA talks about, that being the USA government's policy in the Treasury/ESF and the debt effect thru GSEs and activities of Bullion Banks, that you Ron feel that China is "shooting themselves in the foot"? So Ron you see the USA selling it's Fort Knox physical gold to China's Central Bank as a good? Is this "Good News" Ron? Or is it a current "Non News" to become "Bad News"? Doug

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (53761)	6/7/2000 4:25:00 AM
From: long-gone	Respond to of 116764

"danger" in S. Africa gold mining - believe as you wish? ELANDSRAND MINE CELEBRATES ONE MILLION FATALITY-FREE SHIFTS Date: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 Some 5800 people of Elandsrand Mine in the Gauteng?s West Wits region gathered today (Tuesday, 06 June 2000) to celebrate their second achievement of one million fatality-free shifts. The mine accomplished this feat on 23 May 2000, with their previous achievement having been on 9 March 1994. At the celebratory function, AngloGold?s Executive Officer, South Africa, Alan Smith, congratulated the Elandsrand team on its proven commitment to the company?s culture of zero tolerance to accidents. Dick Fisher, AngloGold?s Executive Officer ? Safety and Health specifically applauded the mine?s major achievement in reducing the incidence of fatal accidents from thirteen in 1998 and three in 1999 to zero for the current year-to-date. Elandsrand?s General Manager, Rory Kirk attributed the mine?s success on the safety and health front during the past year, to the dedication and commitment of all employees. ?Initiatives that also contributed were the zero tolerance safety campaign, the increased safety awareness established through industrial theatre initiatives, regular briefing sessions, ongoing communication and improved safety systems. All Unions and Associations at Elandsrand have fully supported our initiatives as well.? said Kirk. He urged his team to continue the focus on safety, adding that this achievement should not be seen as their safety destination, but rather as a milestone towards achieving the next million fatality-free shifts, and the next ? anglogold.co.za

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (53761)	6/7/2000 4:40:00 AM
From: d:oug	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116764

Hellooooooooo Ron, Needing some new Cut & Paste material ??? At the Le Metropole Cafe, a new name and new info and new style. Could be "the you" Ron, that which you think you is. But be careful Ron, as you would enter to counter any pro GATA to counter any pro Gold Standard, and if upon a reading you obtain a cold hard sweat knowing its true, not you. [start] Hemingway Table Discussion du jour 6/6 Ed Bugos How the Continuing Repatriation of Global Gold Reserves will eventually lead to a Remonetization of Gold. [end] So Ron, whata you say ? Shake off those Cuts & Pasties Ron, and under it all you may find gold. Outta the closet Ron, its aok to be a gold bug. Its not like i'm asking you to show your gata nuts. dougagatanut