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To: Dayuhan who wrote (6978)	6/6/2000 4:24:00 AM
From: marcos	Respond to of 9127

"My personal opinion is that if conservatives would stick to their core economic issues - by far their strongest positions, IMO - and lighten up on the social righteousness and the hawkish foreign policies, they would find a lot more favor with many Americans." More favor with the neighbors as well ... 'hawkish' means to many south of the US that there is an increased risk that yet more brutal dictators will be supported ... speaking of which, it looks like they might finally nail Pinocho - news.bbc.co.uk We have in Canada a new Alliance party that would roughly correspond to your Republican party [well, except that even they don't object to universal healthcare .. yet] ... of course being canadian, we don't have the foreign policy issues like you do, but a major sticking point with many [like me] in re the conservatives here is the 'social righteousness' you mention ... nothing wrong with fiscal responsibility and sound management ... if they get delivered.

To: Dayuhan who wrote (6978)	6/6/2000 9:06:00 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9127

Regarding liberal bias in the mainstream media, I think that part of that perception is valid in that the mainstream media tend to be populated by individuals who either start out or become more socially liberal than those who criticize their bias. As we've said before, we're all products of our experiences and our ideas about the norm come mainly from the people with whom we interact. Someone who lives in the city, travels extensively around the world, and rubs shoulders with all kinds of people is naturally going to have a broader perspective than someone who spends his life in a small town in rural America playing football and reading the Bible. I think much of what is perceived as liberal bias is simply sophistication/urbanity. While this may trouble the social conservatives, it shouldn't necessarily trouble the fiscal conservatives or the libertarians or even the hawks, for that matter. Regarding the purity of the opposition party, an old boss of mine had a favorite saying. I don't know where he got it. Rambi will probably chime in down thread to tell me it was Roosevelt who said it first. <g> Anyway, he used to say that we judge ourselves by what we know we can do and judge others by what they actually do. I think this applies to opposition vs. governance, as well. Speaking of this particular old boss, I'm reminded of a story that might be of interest. This boss, like most of them in the bad old days, used to hit on me regularly. One day he did so with a line about a pubic hair and a coke can. Well, I had never read/seen the book/movie from which that line came. (I'll bet Rambi remembers the source.) And I couldn't imagine why he would try such a stupid line. Fast forward to the Clarence Thomas hearings and Anita Hill. When she testified that he had used that line on her, I immediately identified with her and just "knew" in my bones that she was telling the truth. It was only then that I learned the source, which I no longer remember, of the line. Still think it's more than a little stupid. Karen

To: Dayuhan who wrote (6978)	6/6/2000 10:09:00 AM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 9127

Steven, I agree with your premise regarding sticking to core issues in economics. There is certainly no shortage of conservatively biased news outlets, they simply don't seem to get much attention. Since people are pretty much free to look for news where they want it, what conclusions can we draw from that? If you're referring to the internet. I agree. If you're referring to television or print media. I don't. Very few newspapers or television outlets have a conservative flavor to them. Sure, you can find them in a few large cities if you go looking. But the degree and access is quite limited. However, talk radio and the internet has filled the void rather well for those inclined to listen or access the net for news. I have a theory as to why.... Talk radio and the internet are two way mediums. Therefore, ideas can be challenged in a back and forth way. Print media and television are (for the most part) one way mediums. Liberals feel safer in a one way controlled communications environment. As a small example, take a look at the way Hillary and Al Gore duck reporters in free-wheeling sessions, as compared to their opponents. One of the only exceptions recently was Bill Bradley. And the public (although respecting his honesty) wasn't going to support a socialist agenda. I've noticed the same thing happen here (in a limited way)when I post articles which give a conservative point of view. Some people react as if I shouldn't have the right to post them. And one person has actually told me never to post to her, yet she feels free to place her point of view in my inbox over and over. That's fairly typical of the mainstream news way of thinking. Michael