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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Rambi who wrote (80879)	6/6/2000 12:48:00 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Sometimes one is meant to enjoy a work of art, sometimes one is meant to be disturbed. But there is no good artist who is indifferent to the contingencies of hanging, like lighting, juxtaposition with other objects, the color of the wall, and so on, any more than a composer would be indifferent to instrumentation or acoustics in a performance. That does not mean that there is no latitude in casual situations, but it would seem obvious that one can be more or less careless with a painting or piece of music, and that greater care indicates greater respect. Conversely, indifference indicates no respect at all........

To: Rambi who wrote (80879)	6/6/2000 12:58:00 PM
From: Ilaine	Respond to of 108807

I don't think it's possible have a genuine response to art except as an individual. If other people tell you that you "should" like something, but you don't, you can't fake an aesthetic response you don't feel. You may appreciate the fact that the thing is well done, you may appreciate the fact that others like it, but that's as far as it goes. Creating art is something an artist MUST do, as you must sing and talk and write, as I must read and talk and write. I think artists always want an audience, but they don't necessarily pitch the art towards an audience, although of course they may, if they want money for their creation. You know from writing columns, from singing, from acting, that crafting something for an audience isn't the same as doing it for yourself, you shape your pieces to have a climax and a resolution, because that makes it attractive to an audience. Even when something, without any doubt, creates an aesthetic response, you can still appreciate that it has flaws, like the disproportion of the limbs in Michelangelo's early stuff. But if it doesn't move you, it doesn't move you. Maybe you can learn to like it, maybe you can't. I know lieder is "good," but listening to it is torture to me, so I understand your reaction to Dali, Pollock and Hogarth. With Dali, even if you don't have an aesthetic response to his pictures as a whole, I suspect that you enjoy his use of color, and his draftsmanship. With Pollock, I suspect that you admire his inventiveness. With Hogarth, I suspect that you admire his draftsmanship, and his insight into the human condition. If so, you do enjoy it on some level.

To: Rambi who wrote (80879)	6/6/2000 1:27:00 PM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 108807

Long ago, I watched a Master's Class at Juilliard, with Luciano Pavrotti and about a half- dozen students, on PBS. All of the students were talented and technically proficient. They each did an aria, and Pavrotti would point out things to them, mostly matters of interpretation, perhaps sing an illustrative bar or two, generally coach them. Then they would sing the aria again. Without fail, they each improved from the coaching, and the performance was often startlingly better.... Similarly, in college I directed a few plays. There were always things that people had not, on the first or even 12th reading, grasped about their character, or the themes of the piece, or the dynamics of character interaction, and their performances always improved as we worked through and they saw more deeply into the play, especially as it bore on their roles. Going over the play together yielded more insight and appreciation...... I have gone over poetry and operas in classes, and participated in discussion groups on works of art, and often someone will point out something useful to myself or others in the course of discussion, that adds to appreciation.........