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To: Bill who wrote (80985)	6/7/2000 9:19:00 AM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

I think that is true, although it should be noted that the urine is merely an image. I think it is inappropriate in a taxpayer funded institution, myself, and don't care for it period, as it depends too much on sheer shock value. I am just fascinated with the interplay of elements: the conceptual augmented by perceptual immediacy, the need to have the elements be culturally resonant...........See my continuation in the other post........

To: Bill who wrote (80985)	6/7/2000 9:20:00 AM
From: Edwarda	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

But don't you see, Bill, that this is exactly Neo's point? It is the context that shocks and is intended to provoke thought about the symbols that we hold sacred and what we find shocking. Personally, I do not care for Serrano's work, but I am willing to consider what he intends to say.

To: Bill who wrote (80985)	6/7/2000 9:21:00 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

And wouldn't it be a GOOD think if they were a tolerant enough society to accept that? I think it shows what a great place this is to live that Serrano can live and work here. After all I find a lot of religious painting absolutely horrible- I hate the John the Baptist stuff, with his head on a platter. I MUCH prefer naked live people as subject matter, as compared to dead heads on dinner plates. And all those painting of the last judgment- where sadists really let their imaginations run wild- ugh- creepy. I found a whole bunch of Serrano's work on the web- it's very interesting. I am glad life is relatively unrestricted here. No one need see Piss Christ if they don't want to. No one will force you to read The Alexandria Quartet. No one will force you to go to avant garde theatre productions. But it's great they are there. What is REALLY great art will survive, or at least some of it will. What is pure shock value will die, I suspect. Hard to tell which is which without the passage of time.